Could unexplained objects be hiding in Earth’s orbit? And is the Baltic Sea Anomaly far stranger than skeptics have claimed? In this fascinating conversation recorded at Contact in the Desert, I sit down with legendary explorer Dennis Åsberg, discoverer of the Baltic Sea Anomaly, along with astronomer Dr. Beatriz Villarroel of the VASCO Project. Topics include: • New developments surrounding the Baltic Sea Anomaly • Why Dennis believes the object is not a natural geological formation • The discovery of the 1916 Russian submarine Som • Mysterious equipment failures during anomaly expeditions • Dr. Villarroel’s search for disappearing stars • Unexplained transient objects appearing on astronomical plates • Correlations between UFO reports, nuclear activity, and astronomical anomalies • Evidence suggesting highly reflective objects in Earth orbit • The challenges scientists face when researching controversial subjects • The future of civilian-led UFO and anomaly investigations Dennis Åsberg is the co-founder of Ocean X Team and became internationally known after discovering the Baltic Sea Anomaly in 2011. Dr. Beatriz Villarroel is an astronomer and lead researcher of the VASCO Project, which investigates unexplained astronomical transients and disappearing objects in historical sky surveys. This discussion explores one of the most intriguing intersections of ocean exploration, astronomy, and the UFO mystery.

Dennis Åsberg BIO

Dr. Beatriz Villarroel BIO

Could unexplained objects be hiding in Earth’s orbit? And is the Baltic Sea Anomaly far stranger than skeptics have claimed? In this fascinating conversation recorded at Contact in the Desert, I sit down with legendary explorer Dennis Åsberg, discoverer of the Baltic Sea Anomaly, along with astronomer Dr. Beatriz Villarroel of the VASCO Project. Topics include: • New developments surrounding the Baltic Sea Anomaly • Why Dennis believes the object is not a natural geological formation • The discovery of the 1916 Russian submarine Som • Mysterious equipment failures during anomaly expeditions • Dr. Villarroel’s search for disappearing stars • Unexplained transient objects appearing on astronomical plates • Correlations between UFO reports, nuclear activity, and astronomical anomalies • Evidence suggesting highly reflective objects in Earth orbit • The challenges scientists face when researching controversial subjects • The future of civilian-led UFO and anomaly investigations Dennis Åsberg is the co-founder of Ocean X Team and became internationally known after discovering the Baltic Sea Anomaly in 2011. Dr. Beatriz Villarroel is an astronomer and lead researcher of the VASCO Project, which investigates unexplained astronomical transients and disappearing objects in historical sky surveys. This discussion explores one of the most intriguing intersections of ocean exploration, astronomy, and the UFO mystery.

Dennis Åsberg BIO

Dr. Beatriz Villarroel BIO

Recently, there have been reports throughout the media that FBI files concerning a UFO sighting reported by three Anoka, Minnesota, police officers have been declassified and are available at the National Archives. Remarkably, almost none of the media outlets covering the story provide a link to the actual document with the exception one news outlet, KARE 11, which was kind enough to provide a pdf with one of the FBI documents and related material from Americans for Safe Aerospace and the National UFO Reporting Center.

There is an article by Conor Wight on the CBS News site (updated May 28, 2026) headlined “Newly declassified FBI documents detail UFO sighting by Anoka officers — and one of them filmed it.” Wight is with CBS Minnesota and starts his story with this: “Buried within the National Archives is an unexplained sighting from right here in Minnesota.”

Buried is an apt description, as the documents were quite hard to find in the National Archives Catalogue, but a search within “Group 16: Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena Records Collection,” brought us to records from the FBI, which led us to the files related to the Anoka case, which are the top three in a series of six results.

The top file from FBI Cincinnati is dated March 10, 2025, and is identified after the redacted Case ID # as “Observation of UAP by Anoka Police Department personnel.” According to the section headed “Details,” on February 19, 2025, at 1:15 a.m., three officers observed a “UAP” for 90 minutes. It seemed to be at an altitude of 10,ooo-30,000 feet and at one point, possibly 50 miles away.

It exhibited a light display described as “rapidly changing ‘tie-dye’ multi-color lighting which was inconsistent with known aircraft lights.” It was additionally described as having had the appearance of an illustration of an atom with six “hula-hoops with lights around each loop.” It was said to have been able to move extremely fast seeming to travel 30-40 miles in seconds “with a movement that ‘skipped across the sky like a stone”’ and to have possibly have flown close to the Monticello Nuclear Power Plant.

One of the officers put his phone up to the binoculars he was using to observe the object and captured some video footage of it. This resulted in the video being blurred.

After the details, it is explained that FBI Cincinnati got the report “from a liaison partner organization, Americans for Safe Aerospace.”  The ASA report with the initial interview with “the witness” is said to be attached. The ASA report is also said to contain a description of another sighting by the witness on February 17, 2025.

The second document down is from FBI Minnesota dated May, 9, 2025. It contains the details of an interview of whom we’ll call “the witness,” in his office at the Anoka Police Department by an FBI agent.

According to the document, the witness said that he and the other officers were in the local Domino’s Pizza parking lot for “an after-action briefing” after training. He described the object as a multi-colored gyroscope that was about the size of an SUV or a school bus. He said it was southwest of his position towards Minnetonka, Minnesota, and that when a private airplane flying from the southeast got close to the object, the object descended, moved around the path of the airplane, ascended, and hovered. He said it then moved in three separate bursts, hovered west of him towards Monticello, and then descended, in the words of the reporting agent, “like a leaf floating on a breeze.”

The witness said that when he was leaving the parking lot to meet someone (redacted) at the local Kwik Trip he saw, in the agent’s words, “a second object, similar to the first,” followed it for 12 miles down Highway 10, watched it as it hovered over Monticello, and then continued to the Kwik Trip.

The witness also provided information on two other sightings he’d had, one (recorded on his phone) on September 11, 2022, of a hovering object near the Anoka Ice Arena that then rapidly ascended, and another when he was younger (age redacted) of, in the agent’s words, “a large yellow and orange orb hovering over the lake at his parents’ cabin.” In addition to his own sightings, the witness said that a friend had seen three flashes of light while driving, recorded the third flash, and gave him the video.

The document concludes stating that the case is closed unless additional information is received that might give reason for the case to be reopened

The third file down is the last one pertaining to the case and is the same as what was linked to by KARE 11 except that there is a copy of the video taken by the witness. The FBI document, identified as “F–71A  – Guardian Complaint Form,” is dated May 15, 2025. The first page is a duplicate of the March 10^th form, while the second lists the attachments from NUFORC, ASA, and the video.

The first NUFORC attachment is a report dated January 16, 2025, of a white light seen that same day by three witnesses driving down Highway 10, and the second is dated February 20, 2025, and has details of a January 17, 2025, sighting from a deck in Saint Paul, Minnesota, of a diamond-shaped, muti-colored object that traveled at an “unexplainable speed and direction then disappeared” and caused animals to react.

The ASA report begins with a statement that might explain the involvement of the FBI: “Below is a report which might involve nuclear energy infrastructure.” The report has details that are missing in the FBI documents, not least of which is that it states there were a total of four witnesses including the reporting witness.

According to the Witness Statement, after the initial sighting with two co-workers, the witness went to his office to get a pair of Bushnell binoculars and took up a new position on a parking ramp and continued observing the object with three co-workers. The witness says a helicopter flew between them and the object and that this seemed to prompt the object to move off rapidly to the north and gain altitude. The witness also says that a co-worker drove 10 miles down highway 10 and reported that the object was still far off to the west of him. The airplane and the object’s apparent reaction to it are described as in the other reports.

The witness describes seeing the second object, says it was similar to and much closer than the first object, and that he wasn’t able to stay and “monitor it.” There is no mention of him following it down highway 10. Finally, he says he saw a similar object on February 17, 2025, and that he did not discuss it with anyone until seeing the object with his co-workers on February 19^th.

For insight into the background of the relationship between ASA and the FBI, there is the article by Daniel Lippman headlined, “FBI agents who investigate UFOs worried they could be pushed out in possible purge,” posted February 3, 2025, on Politico. The subhead reads: “The existence of the FBI’s informal working group on the issue has not been disclosed publicly before.”

Founder and ASA Executive Director Ryan Graves, a former Navy pilot, is quoted expressing concern that “the FBI’s UAP Working Group could be affected by transition changes.” Lippman describes the group as “informal,” and says that Graves and three others were familiar with it and that they described it this way: “It consists of a national program manager and more than a dozen employees across the country who spend much of their time tracking down UAPs.” According to Lippman, Graves said that ASA had been working with the group for over a year.

Lippman includes a statement from the FBI to the effect that it “investigates Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena when there is potential for a violation of federal law.”

LIVE: Podcast UFO, Martin Willis welcomes renowned UFO researcher and author Preston Dennett to discuss his latest book, Humanoids & High Strangeness: 20 True UFO Encounters. From close encounters with mysterious beings to bizarre cases involving missing time, telepathy, unusual craft, and events that defy conventional explanation, Preston explores some of the most compelling humanoid encounters ever reported. We’ll examine what these cases may reveal about the UFO phenomenon, why humanoid reports continue to surface worldwide, and whether these experiences point to something far stranger than lights in the sky.

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Join Martin Willis of Podcast UFO, cohosting with Krys Devine for live simulcast coverage, commentary, and post-event analysis of the June 9 UAP/UFO transparency press conference at the U.S. Capitol. David Grusch, members of Congress, journalists, and disclosure advocates are expected to discuss government transparency, whistleblower protections, and the release of additional UAP-related records.

We’ll watch the event together and examine:

• What new information, if any, is presented
• Statements from David Grusch and participating lawmakers
• Potential implications for UAP disclosure efforts
• Calls for additional hearings, investigations, and records releases
• What this means for the future of government transparency

Following the event, Martin will provide analysis and take questions and comments from the live audience.

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Hosted by Martin Willis since 2011

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Tonight on UFO Headlines, we’re joined by UFO Jack, Kelly Hughes, and Sam Milodragovich to discuss the latest developments in the UAP world. We’ll cover the recent release of more than 160 government UAP files, the upcoming June 9 Capitol Hill press conference involving David Grusch and congressional transparency advocates, the controversy surrounding Aliens.gov, and some of the most talked-about cases emerging from the newly released documents. We’ll also share our experiences from Contact in the Desert 2026, including standout presentations, behind-the-scenes conversations, and the overall mood of the UFO community regarding disclosure and the future of UAP investigations. Join us live and bring your questions and comments as we discuss the latest UFO headlines and what may be coming next.

The continuing fallout from the U.S. government’s May release of more than 160 UAP-related files, including military reports, videos, photographs, astronaut accounts, and witness testimony. Additional releases are expected in the coming weeks.

The growing attention surrounding the June 9 Capitol Hill press conference, where David Grusch, members of Congress, journalists, and other advocates are expected to renew calls for greater government transparency on UAPs.

Aliens.gov — the website that sparked massive UFO speculation before launching as an immigration-themed government site. We’ll discuss the public reaction and whether it helped or hurt confidence in government transparency efforts.

The most discussed cases emerging from the newly released files, including military reports involving unusual orb sightings, astronaut observations, and historical incidents that continue to generate debate among researchers.

The UFO community’s response to the latest disclosures. Have these releases moved the conversation forward, or are they largely repackaged material that leaves the biggest questions unanswered?

https://www.war.gov/UFO/

Matt Ford’s ‘Scrubbed’ article 

https://www.whitehouse.gov/aliens/

At Contact in the Desert, Martin Willis sits down with entrepreneur, AI researcher, and quantum computing expert Deep Prasad for a wide-ranging discussion that explores the intersection of artificial intelligence, consciousness, advanced physics, and the UFO phenomenon. Deep shares details of an extraordinary experience he had in 2019 that profoundly changed his understanding of reality and led him to explore questions surrounding non-human intelligence and consciousness. He also discusses the rapid advancement of AI, the promise and challenges of quantum computing, and how future technologies may help unlock some of the deepest mysteries surrounding UAPs.

Topics include:

• Deep Prasad’s extraordinary experience with non-human intelligence
• Artificial Intelligence and AGI
• Quantum computing and the future of technology
• AI safety and the challenges ahead
• Consciousness and reality
• Advanced physics and propulsion concepts
• UAPs and non-human intelligence
• The future of energy and battery technology
• How AI may help uncover hidden scientific discoveries

This conversation offers a fascinating look at some of the biggest questions facing humanity, from the future of intelligence to the possibility that we are not alone.

Guest: Deep Prasad
Host: Martin Willis, Podcast UFO

At Contact in the Desert, Martin Willis sits down with entrepreneur, AI researcher, and quantum computing expert Deep Prasad for a wide-ranging discussion that explores the intersection of artificial intelligence, consciousness, advanced physics, and the UFO phenomenon. Deep shares details of an extraordinary experience he had in 2019 that profoundly changed his understanding of reality and led him to explore questions surrounding non-human intelligence and consciousness. He also discusses the rapid advancement of AI, the promise and challenges of quantum computing, and how future technologies may help unlock some of the deepest mysteries surrounding UAPs.

Topics include:

• Deep Prasad’s extraordinary experience with non-human intelligence
• Artificial Intelligence and AGI
• Quantum computing and the future of technology
• AI safety and the challenges ahead
• Consciousness and reality
• Advanced physics and propulsion concepts
• UAPs and non-human intelligence
• The future of energy and battery technology
• How AI may help uncover hidden scientific discoveries

This conversation offers a fascinating look at some of the biggest questions facing humanity, from the future of intelligence to the possibility that we are not alone.

Guest: Deep Prasad
Host: Martin Willis, Podcast UFO

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By the time Project Blue Book was terminated, most UFO researchers, especially in the United States, were of the opinion that UFOs were nuts and bolts craft piloted by flesh and blood creatures from other planets. This is what has become known as the extraterrestrial hypothesis or ETH. At around the same time, as the 1960s gave way to the 1970s, Jacques Vallée had one book published and John Keel had two published, that challenged the ETH, and caused many in the UFO community to consider other options.

Vallée had his first UFO book, Anatomy of a Phenomenon, published in 1965 and his second, Challenge to Science, co-written with his wife, Janine, published in 1966. Both books make the argument that the UFO mystery is worthy of scientific study and present the elements of the problem in an organized manner in an effort to facilitate such study. In what would become characteristic in Vallée’s books, he presents accounts going back to antiquity, and he presents a lot of them. The books are lengthy and dry and hold little appeal for the average UFO enthusiast looking for sensational accounts of sightings and encounters.

On October 1, 1969 (according to the Kirkus review), Vallée had his book Passport to Magonia published, and it was quite a departure from the first two books. His central thesis in the book is that there is a link between UFOs and tales told in religious texts, legends of old, fairy lore, and folk lore. The full title of the first edition is Passport to Magonia: From Folklore to Flying Saucers.

Vallée doesn’t dismiss the UFO mystery as a modern myth, but rather, suggests that it might stem from somethings or someones interacting with humanity that have been doing so since antiquity. He also suggests there might be a trickster element involved, saying in the section at the end of the main body of the book titled “Conjectures” (Fact 4), “The behavior of the entities is consistently absurd…” and “their assertions have been systematically misleading.”

After the main body, in the appendix, Vallée presents “A Century of UFO Landings (1868-1968.) In his introduction he says “The study of UFOs is more than a descriptive analysis of folklore, but it has not developed into a scientific field.” He argues that what is lacking is “a proper definition of the phenomenon to be studied.”

As for the book’s reception, Vallée wrote in the foreword to the 2014 edition that the hardcover edition only sold 5000 copies. However, he explains that while it “was ignored or rejected in the U.S., it was well received in Europe, where audiences have a greater appreciation of history and the importance of folklore in defining a culture.”

Just after Passport was published, Keel’s book, Strange Creatures From Time and Space, came out on January 1, 1970, and it is definitely the sort of book that would appeal to the average UFO enthusiast as well as lovers of what we now call cryptids. It has a fantastic cover by Frank Frazetta and is chock full cases involving what the title promises. However, what sets it apart from the usual UFO books of that era is Keel’s commentary. It was here that Keel introduced his idea that there were “widow” areas where UFOs and strange creatures appeared in the midst of other oddities repeatedly throughout history.

Like Vallée, Keel was considering alternatives to the ETH, but his thinking was much more evolved, most likely due to his field investigation work that began 1966. It was mostly centered around the events in Point Pleasant, West Virginia, involving UFO encounters and the cryptid known as the Mothman.

Keel had another book, Operation Trojan Horse, in which he took a more scholarly approach to presenting his ideas, published on the same date. An ad for both books in the Vol. 16, No. 3, May/June 1970 Flying Saucer Review explains that Keel’s original manuscript covering his UFO study was so big that it was “divided into two 90,000-word books.”

Strange Creatures is described as “a casebook recounting hundreds of bizarre incidents involving unknown animals and humanoids, demonstrating the surprising correlations hidden in the testimonial evidence.” As for Keel’s commentary, “The seeming hostility of the central phenomenon is defined and graphically explained.”

Operation Trojan Horse is described as “a hardcover containing hundreds of carefully documented cases, and revealing for the first time the author’s personal contact experiences in 1967 which turned him from a ‘believer’ into a sceptic.” As for its impact on the UFO community, “Advance reviewers have declared: ‘It is certain to become the greatest classic on the subject… It will undoubtedly alter the course of all future UFO research.’”

Keel’s UFO study actually started off as an assignment. In his 2002 interview with Art Bell, Keel says he was on assignment for Playboy magazine to “get to the bottom of the UFO mystery.” According to Doug Skinner in his February 11, 2015, post on johnkeel.com, Keel’s article was to be called Operation Trojan Horse, but it was rejected. He explains: “John decided to write the definitive article, and it grew longer and longer, as the correspondence grew more acrimonious. Eventually, the piece was rejected.” Playboy, instead, went with Dr. J. Allen Hynek who wrote an article headlined, “The UFO Gap,” that was published in the December 1967 issue.

While Passport to Magonia and Operation Trojan Horse have become classics, are still in print, and continue to influence paranormal enthusiasts to this day, the struggle for serious scientific study of the UFO mystery wasn’t going to be helped along at that point by the ideas in those books. As can be seen in their publications, groups such as APRO in the U.S., and the British UFO Research Association in Europe, stuck to the ETH.

However, FSR was open to the ideas of Vallée and Keel, as the publishers had formed very similar ideas themselves. Started in 1954, FSR was published in England, and both Vallée and Keel were frequent contributors. They maintained an audience and a presence and the idea that UFOs and their associated occupants might be from a realm other that outer space continues to be entertained by researcher/investigators to this day.

This week on Podcast UFO, Martin Willis welcomes back legendary author and experiencer Whitley Strieber, best known for his landmark book Communion. In a wide-ranging conversation, Whitley shares his latest thoughts on UFOs, non-human intelligence, Roswell, disclosure, consciousness, artificial intelligence, and humanity’s future.

The discussion explores whether the phenomenon may originate from a reality beyond our own, the role consciousness could play in contact experiences, and why disclosure may be far more complex than simply revealing government secrets. Whitley also reflects on the lasting impact of Communion, the Allagash Abduction case, reports of orb activity, and personal experiences that continue to shape his understanding of the mystery.

Whether you agree with his conclusions or not, Whitley remains one of the most influential and thought-provoking voices in the UFO field. Join us for an engaging conversation that challenges assumptions and explores some of the biggest questions surrounding the UFO phenomenon.

BIO: Louis Whitley Strieber (/ˈstriːbər/; born June 13, 1945) is an American writer best known for his horror novels The Wolfen and The Hunger and for Communion, a non-fiction account of his alleged experiences with non-human entities.^[1] He has maintained a dual career as an author of fiction and advocate of metaphysical concepts through his best-selling non-fiction books, his Unknown Country website, and his podcast, Dreamland. Continued