The following is a point and counterpoint on the subject of Bob Lazar
I am an avid UFO U-tube viewer of your show.
I have watched/listen to your program and have found them to be very enlightening, entertaining and thoughtful hence my move over from Fade to Black and related shows.
You have been very verbal about your skepticism about Bob Lazar which I respect. I do question how adamant you and Stanton Friedman are based upon one issue only, and ignore all the other facts/proof provided.
I watched a debate between Stanton Friedman and Jeremy Corbell about BL which was chaired by Alajandro. Jeremy got carried away and as a result he did not present the facts which he does in other interviews which to me are quite significant:
1]. BL had 4 lie detector tests conducted by an experienced person which he passed
2]. Jeremy has a scientist in the movie who states and remembers BL working at the Los Alamo company and this scientist was apparently being constantly contacted by Stanton talking about the MIT issue only.
3] The Secret Service came to raid BL during the period the movie was being produced….30 years after the incident…
Granted the inability to prove attendance at MIT is significant but what about the other issues such as
1].BL talked about S4 when that was NEVER spoken or known about until recently
2] Element 115 which only recently has been mentioned and confirmed by the scientific community
3] George Knapp’s statements and his open support for the BL story [ you say you believe in George – listen to George Knapps 2019 U-tube show with BL and his analogy about Edward Snowdon and BL]
4] being able to take John Lear and friends out 3 times to watch strange flying objects flying over Area 51
As BL lied about the MIT degree, therefore you cannot believe his account of S4 and Area 51, element 115, despite they have now been confirmed. Why do you believe the US Navy about the Tic Tac video when you have openly stated the US Gov and military has lied about UFOs?…..or are they allowed to lie and others not?
Additionally the 4 lie detector tests BL passed never ever come up in your comments about BL – if they are not reliable or trivial than what about the Trevor Walton issue where they passed 6 lie detector tests?
Your statement on BL is similar to how the debunkers talk about UFOs [ I know you are not a debunker]… you and Stanton select one point, the MIT issue, and base your whole conclusion on that and disregard other solid facts…
Have any of your friends/family ever made a few ‘exaggerated’ statements that could be classified as lies….. does that mean they too should not be believed….ever? Have you ever told a lie?
I would and I am sure your listeners would love to listen to an interview where Jeremy Corbell and George Knapp discuss/debate you and Alejandro about Bob Lazar…..,I am positive it would boost your listener audience
Maybe another program of interest is your opinion or interview of Cory Goode and David Wilcox about visiting Mars or whatever they did as kids [ I do not watch their videos ]… they are more far fetched the Steven Greer but they seem to get a free pass from you [ ..before saying you do not know much about them, watch a few of their videos]
FYI – Recent 2019 George Knapp interviewing and on Bob lazar
I understand, I thank you for all of this detail and reaching out as well.
Another thing to think about is, he obviously would have a clearance to do the initial work at Area 51 and if he violated that by whistleblowing, then he would not ever be able to have a clearance again. To sell or to contract with the government the way he has been doing over the last few decades, he would have to have a clearance.
There is a murkiness about the whole thing, I watched the debate with Jeremy and Stanton as well. I feel Jeremy has become Bob Lazar’s protector, similar to Michael Horn protecting Billy Meier. Jeremy is a talented filmmaker, but I felt his film tried to force us to believe in Bob and thought it was a shame that his mother was not asked important questions, about things that she would know about. For instance, how she felt about his education.
With an appraiser’s way of thinking, looking at a lot of forgeries over the years, I have become skeptical about Bob Lazar’s whole story, when only part of it may be true. I am not saying he is a sociopathic liar by any means, but will point out that they are known for passing the best polygraph tests easily.
As far as Element 115, he claimed there was about 500 lbs of it if I remember right. You can look into what that would take to get that much of it and how unstable it is (lasting milliseconds). His claim that element 115 could never be synthesized in a lab and could only be found naturally occurring in star systems is also proven untrue. Element 115 was synthesized in a lab, I am not sure if it is naturally occurring or not. Also the name he gave it, Ununpentium is Latin for 115, the element has been named Moscovium. I realize the name matters little.
Neither one of us is going to convince the other, it just does not pass the smell test to me. So we can agree to disagree.
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