152. Leslie Kean & Jose Lay

urlAlejandro Rojas with the news, and journalist & author Leslie Kean and Chilean International Affairs Director of CEFAA (on UFOs) Jose Lay joins us to speak about a recent story published of a Chilean encounter taken seriously. Support the show to hear more in hour two.

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3 thoughts on “152. Leslie Kean & Jose Lay

  • May 28, 2015 at 4:38 pm

    Great interview but I have to ask you about a couple questions you asked. You referred to beings and abductions as fringe questions. I understand where Leslie and the Chilean Government are coming from with relations to the UFO situation. Only wanting to present the facts etc. But I fear if you and others start referring to occupants, beings and abductions as fringe then that will set ufology back to where is was in the 50s and 60s.

    If you are only going to present what various governments and specialized journalists are saying and discount what others are saying maybe you should add skeptic to your resume.

    I’ve been researching and reading about this topic for years and there’s more to what’s going on than meets the eye here. If you want to have a successful show you should be open to all (even “fringe”) ideas and let your audience decide for themselves what’s what.

    • May 28, 2015 at 5:28 pm

      Thank you for your comment. I am not afraid to add ‘skeptic’ to my resume as I don’t believe it is a bad thing. I do not think I have the power to set back any part of the field, and there is enough people doing that already by making careless claims.

      I may be wrong but I believe that a lot of people in the field feel as alien abductions and beings are more toward the fringe side than UFO sightings are. I am not claiming that these things do, or do not exist, and I do not intend to debunk anything without facts. As a matter of fact, I believe Travis Walton, and other cases such as the Allagash. I talked face to face with these people and believe them. I also believe that Zimbabwe Alien Encounter with 62 Ariel School Children actually happened. So maybe “fringe” is not the correct word that I should have been using.

      If you listen to my other shows, you will see that I am indeed openminded enough to let people talk about fringe-like subjects and I do let the listener make up their own minds.

      Thank you for listening.


  • May 29, 2015 at 3:21 pm

    Thanks for the reply and I find your shows very informative and thought provoking. Just like to add my two cents once in a while.


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