Martin Willis welcomes Lorien Fenton, longtime UFO researcher, MUFON meeting director, radio host, and producer of UFO CON, for a wide-ranging conversation about UFO encounters and the mysteries surrounding them. Lorien describes her life-threatening illness in 2009, her experiences with what she believes are white light beings, and an extraordinary 2014 sighting of a massive black triangle UFO that reportedly changed direction and vanished at tremendous speed. She also recounts sightings of unusual craft, including a horseshoe-shaped object allegedly pursued by an F-16, and discusses her theories about consciousness, memory manipulation, and extraterrestrial contact. The conversation includes a heartfelt remembrance of Mario Woods, concerns about the direction of UAP disclosure and David Grusch’s recent public statements, and a preview of UFO CON 2027, where firsthand witnesses and experiencers take center stage.
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