Simulcast on YouTube, Facebook & Twitter | Tuesday, July 07, 2026 @ 8:00 PM EDT (GMT-4)
Former Rear Admiral Tim Gallaudet returns to Podcast UFO for an in-depth discussion of UAP, USO, ocean mysteries, government transparency, and the search for answers. Gallaudet clarifies his role on the newly formed UAP Science Advisory Council reporting to the Office of the Director of National Intelligence, alongside Harvard astrophysicist Avi Loeb. He discusses the council’s effort to obtain and analyze Pentagon UAP data, including reports involving possible anomalous objects detected by U.S. submarines. The conversation focuses heavily on undersea anomalies. Gallaudet describes reported encounters in which submarine crews detected objects moving at extraordinary speeds underwater, including one alleged sonar contact recorded at 80 knots. He explains why the oceans, much of which remain poorly explored, may be a logical place for elusive phenomena to operate beyond public observation. We also discuss metallic sphere reports, unreleased military video, the need for rigorous scientific study, artificial intelligence in UAP research, compartmentalization within government programs, and whether the public is finally moving closer to meaningful disclosure. Tim also talks about his new book, *Holding Fast in Heavy Seas*, a leadership memoir reflecting on his Navy career and his time leading NOAA through difficult political and scientific challenges. Could UAP represent advanced adversary technology, unknown engineering, or something genuinely non-human? Tim Gallaudet explains why either possibility deserves serious attention.
New Book Holding Fast in Heavy Seas: https://rb.gy/l2nhsg
Bio: The Honorable Tim Gallaudet, PhD, Rear Admiral, U.S. Navy (ret) is a career oceanographer and technology consultant. Formerly, he served as the acting Undersecretary and Assistant Secretary of Commerce, acting and Deputy Administrator of the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA), and Oceanographer of the Navy. Currently, Gallaudet serves as a strategic advisor and board member for several startups, nonprofits, and research institutions in the ocean, weather, environment, and space sectors. Gallaudet has been interested in UAP since he was young, but his experience as the Superintendent of the U.S. Naval Observatory gave him a greater appreciation for their scientific validity. He was recently appointed to the newly formed U.S. UAP Science Advisory Council. Hand-picked by Harvard astronomer Avi Loeb, the council operates under the White House to bring scientific rigor to the investigation of Unidentified Anomalous Phenomenanow is a research affiliate for Harvard University’s Galileo Project, an Advisory Board member for Americans for Safe Aerospace, and will provide a keynote address at the Anomalous Aerospace Phenomena Conference hosted by the Scientific Coalition for UAP Studies on July 30. As a member of the Ocean Studies Board in the National Academies of Sciences, Engineering and Medicine, and a nominee for the White House Ocean Research Advisory Panel, Gallaudet hopes to advance the scientific study of undersea UAP. He is a fellow at The Explorer’s Club, a distinguished graduate of the University of California, San Diego, a recipient of the U.S. Coast Guard Distinguished Public Service Award, and holds a bachelor’s degree from the U.S. Naval Academy, as well as master’s and doctoral degrees from Scripps Institution of Oceanography.
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In 1958, motorists in Elkton, Michigan, were alarmed by the sight of a blue creature with blinking lights and what looked to be a space helmet. Estimates of its size ranged from 2 to 10 feet tall, and mothers who spotted it while looking out the windows of their homes were 
Rony Vernet returns to Podcast UFO to discuss his field investigations into unusual phenomena reported in the Amazon rainforest and other remote regions of Brazil. An electrical engineer and researcher, Vernet shares accounts from indigenous communities involving luminous orbs, humanoid figures, strange lights, apparent equipment interference, and encounters that local residents believe originate from the forest itself. Martin and Rony also discuss the Peru flying humanoid reports, the Varginha case, alleged Brazilian military and police encounters with UAPs and beings, and the difficulty of collecting repeatable scientific data in unpredictable field conditions. Vernet explains his use of cameras, drones, infrared equipment, sensors, and other tools, along with why some of the most striking incidents reportedly involved lost or corrupted recordings. The conversation explores possible physical, spiritual, psychological, and interdimensional interpretations of the phenomenon, as well as Rony’s upcoming work and documentaries.
Martin Willis is joined by Donna Killeen, UFO Jack, Kelly Hughes, and Sam Milodragovich for UFO Headlines, discussing the latest developments in the UAP and UFO world. Martin and Donna share highlights from the recent Disclosure Forum in Washington, DC, including Martin’s question to Representative Eric Burlison about government file releases, private-sector crash-retrieval claims, and the search for more meaningful transparency. The panel also discusses the latest UAP records release, unusual orb reports, the role of skeptics, government disclosure efforts, archival research, and major historic cases including Roswell, Ariel School, Phoenix Lights, and Rendlesham Forest. They also explore the larger questions: Could there be multiple intelligences behind the phenomenon, and what evidence would it take for the public to truly accept the reality of UAPs?
Guest Joe Biscotto
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Rhys Dalton-Morgan joins me from Contact in the Desert for a fascinating conversation about a remarkable family connection to one of Australia’s most intriguing UFO cases. Rhys’s grandfather, a decorated RAF fighter pilot and later operations head of the vast Woomera Test Range in South Australia, reportedly witnessed a bright disc-shaped object during the era of Black Knight rocket testing. According to Rhys’s research, the object was seen over the range by multiple personnel, appeared to circle a missile site, and then accelerated away at extraordinary speed. The case has since led Rhys into a deeper investigation of his grandfather’s military background, including a reported early involvement with a secret U.S.-U.K. UFO inquiry. We also discuss Rhys’s mother’s personal experiences, the role of respected Australian researcher Bill Chalker, the strange history surrounding Woomera, and some of Australia’s most compelling cases. Later, Rhys gives an excellent overview of the 1966 Westall school UFO incident, including the witnesses, reported landings, unusual aircraft, alleged military response, and some lesser-known details surrounding the event. We also touch on Australian high strangeness, alleged abduction cases, cryptid reports including the Yowie, and why the UFO phenomenon may be far more complex than simply unexplained technology.
It often happens that reported UFO incidents get lost when the media is focused on one of more reports that might be more sensational. This seems to have been the situation in Italy in 1979. There had been a flap in Italy throughout 1978 and a 
Actor, writer, and technology innovator Sal Amato joins Martin Willis for a fascinating discussion on UFOs, disclosure, media influence, and the inspiration behind his upcoming novel, Hidden Powers: Disclosure From Within. Drawing from decades of interest in unexplained phenomena, technology, and human behavior, Sal shares his thoughts on historical UFO cases, the 1952 Washington, D.C. sightings, information control, and why curiosity is essential when exploring extraordinary claims. The conversation also explores how technology shapes public perception, the challenges of separating fact from fiction, and the themes of disclosure, power, and truth woven throughout his new book. An engaging discussion for anyone interested in UFOs, mysteries, and the bigger questions surrounding what we know—and what we may not know.
Martin Willis is joined by Podcast UFO producer Donna Killeen, UFO Jack, Kelly Hughes, and Sam Milodragovich for a lively, spoiler-filled roundtable discussion of one of the most anticipated UFO films in recent memory. The panel shares their honest reactions to the movie, explores its many references to UFO history and lore, and debates whether Spielberg successfully captured the mystery, wonder, and complexity of the UFO phenomenon. Topics include experiencers, screen memories, government secrecy, whistleblowers, historical UFO cases, disclosure, and the film’s surprising ending. Was Disclosure Day a groundbreaking UFO movie, a fun science-fiction adventure, or a missed opportunity? Tune in to hear a range of perspectives from voices deeply involved in the UFO community. Plus, the panel discusses some of the real-world UFO developments making headlines and what the movie may mean for public interest in the UFO topic going forward.
Martin Willis welcomes Simon Bown, author of Aspects of Alien Abduction: Shocking UFO Encounters, Vol. 1. Simon discusses his own UFO sightings, a possible abduction memory recovered through hypnosis, and the recurring patterns he has found after interviewing hundreds of experiencers. Topics include consciousness, missing time, healing cases, family connections, and the mystery behind alien abduction reports.
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Recorded at Contact in the Desert, Martin Willis sits down with explorer Dennis Åsberg, discoverer of the Baltic Sea Anomaly, and astronomer Dr. Beatriz Villarroel of the VASCO Project. Dennis discusses new developments surrounding the anomaly, repeated equipment failures during expeditions, and the discovery of the lost Russian submarine Som, while Dr. Villarroel shares her groundbreaking research into unexplained transient objects, vanishing stars, and evidence suggesting highly reflective objects in Earth orbit. Together they explore the intersection of ocean exploration, astronomy, UFOs, scientific inquiry, and some of the most intriguing mysteries of our time.