Upcoming: U.S. Air Force Pararescueman (ret) Scott Gearen

Simulcast on YouTube, Facebook & Twitter | Tuesday, August 25, 2026 @ 8:00 PM EDT (GMT-4)

What did retired U.S. Air Force Pararescueman Scott Gearen photograph in the sky over Florida, and could something extraordinary be hiding in plain sight?

Scott joins Martin Willis to discuss his books, *Hiding in Plain Sight* and *Hiding in Plain Sight Volume II*, which document a mysterious aerial phenomenon he witnessed and photographed during a 2019 speaking engagement in Panama City Beach, Florida. Scott believes his series of photographs captures something genuinely unidentified. We’ll examine what he saw, how the images were taken, what they reveal and whether more conventional explanations can be ruled out.

Scott brings an unusually grounded perspective to the subject. He served for more than 22 years in elite U.S. Air Force special operations as a Pararescueman and Special Tactics pioneer. His career included service with JSOC, training in Rendlesham Forest, leading the first MH-53 penetration into Iraq at the beginning of Desert Storm and helping rescue two downed pilots from enemy territory in the Balkans.

We will also discuss the catastrophic 1984 parachuting accident in which Scott fell more than 3,000 feet beneath a destroyed canopy and struck the ground at approximately 100 miles per hour. During the ordeal, he experienced a profound near-death experience that transformed his understanding of consciousness, energy, human connection and what may happen at death.

Does Scott’s military experience make him an especially reliable observer? What exactly appears in his photographs? Could the object represent an unfamiliar aircraft, an atmospheric phenomenon or something even more extraordinary?

Join us for a fascinating conversation about survival, consciousness and the unexplained.

Learn more about Scott Gearen:
https://www.scottgearen.com

BIO: Scott Gearen is a retired U.S. Air Force Pararescueman (PJ) and Special Tactics pioneer with over 22 years in elite special operations, including JSOC and the first Special Tactics Team (now the 24th Special Tactics Squadron).

Enlisting from Tampa, Florida, he earned his maroon beret in 1979. His initial assignment with the 67th Aerospace Rescue and Recovery Squadron at RAF Woodbridge, UK (1980), involved extensive nighttime and daytime training in Rendlesham Forest — the site of one of the most famous UAP incidents in history. Read more

UPCOMING: Grant Lavac

Simulcast on YouTube, Facebook & Twitter | Thursday, August 27, 2026 @ 8:00 PM EDT (GMT-4)

Australian UAP researcher and activist Grant Lavac returns to Podcast UFO for a wide-ranging discussion about Australia’s surprisingly limited public response to the UFO phenomenon. While the United States treats UAP as a potential aviation-safety and national-security concern, Australia has no dedicated reporting system for its military or civilian pilots. According to Grant, Australians who witness something unexplained may simply be advised to contact the police or a civilian UFO organization. Yet documents obtained through Freedom of Information requests reveal a more complicated story. Australia participated in the inaugural Five Eyes UAP Caucus Working Group alongside the United States, Canada, the United Kingdom and New Zealand. Is Australia privately more engaged with the subject than its officials acknowledge publicly? Grant also discusses: Australia’s lack of a formal UAP reporting and investigative system The classified Five Eyes conversation about UAP What Australian defence and intelligence officials may know His Freedom of Information discoveries The 60th anniversary of the 1966 Westall UFO incident Newly reported information involving missing police records The unexplained disappearance of pilot Frederick Valentich The need for firsthand witnesses and physical evidence Growing “disclosure fatigue” within the UFO community Whether witnesses should receive immunity to testify Preparing the public for potentially world-changing disclosure Grant is the host of The Unexplained Rundown, where he reports on Australian UAP policy, government documents and his continuing efforts to obtain greater transparency. What do you think: Is Australia genuinely ignoring the UAP issue, or is a very different conversation happening behind closed doors?

776. Jacques Vallée

Legendary UFO researcher Jacques Vallée joins Martin Willis to discuss Forbidden Science 7: Final Report, the concluding volume of his journals covering 2020–2025. Vallée reflects on today’s disclosure movement, his own unexplained 1955 sighting and missing memory, the dangers of amateur hypnotic regression, alleged structured contact with an unknown intelligence and a database containing approximately 260,000 UFO cases. After nearly seventy years of research, he leaves us with a profound question: Are we living in a reality that can be manipulated—and are our present scientific methods capable of recognizing it?

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775. Christopher Noël UFOs & Consciousness

What if UFOs do not defy gravity through advanced propulsion, but through consciousness itself? Yale-trained philosopher and author Christopher Noël joins Martin Willis to explore his proposal that consciousness may be an undiscovered field of nature capable of interacting with physical reality. They discuss the Oz Factor, altered perception, missing time, unexplained cold and silence during encounters, electromagnetic disturbances, psychokinesis, orbs, UFO propulsion and the similarities connecting UAP, ghosts, Sasquatch and other high-strangeness phenomena. Christopher also shares his provocative theory that apparent alien beings and craft may temporarily manifest from an unseen level of reality rather than simply traveling here from distant planets. The conversation also touches on the Buga Sphere, Nazca mummies, the Ariel School encounter and whether UFOs use consciousness to manipulate matter. Christopher Noël is the author of The Anatomy of Thin Air and Homegrown Monsters.

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A 1964 UFO and Humanoid Report

by UFO History Buff & Author, Charles Lear 

On April 24, 1964, in Socorro, New Mexico, Sgt. Lonnie Zamora of the Socorro Police reported seeing an egg-shaped object and two small humanoids dressed in white coveralls. On April 24, 1964, in Newark Valley, New York, farmer Gary Wilcox reported seeing an egg-shaped object and two small humanoids dressed in white coveralls. The difference is, Wilcox claimed he talked with the creatures he saw.

The first investigator on the scene was Wilcox’s neighbor, Priscilla J. Baldwin. She had an interest in UFOs and spoke with Wilcox on April 28th. National Investigations Committee on Aerial Phenomena advisor Walter Webb interviewed Wilcox on November 8, 1964, and there is a NICAP file on the incident.

Dr. Berthold Eric Schwartz investigated this case extensively and wrote an article (page 20 of the pdf) about it headlined, “Gary Wilcox and the UFOnauts,” published in the September 1969 Flying Saucer Review Special Issue 3. According to him in his article, material from Baldwin and Webb was made available to him, and he interviewed Wilcox along with his wife, friends, neighbors, and members of his family. Read more

774. Professor Matthew Bowman

Martin Willis speaks with historian and author Matthew Bowman about the 1961 Betty and Barney Hill UFO encounter and his book, The Abduction of Betty and Barney Hill. Drawing upon archival papers, personal correspondence, early Air Force and NICAP reports, hypnosis transcripts, and John Fuller’s research files, Bowman discusses official interest in the case, Dr. Benjamin Simon’s conclusions, the reliability of hypnosis, Marjorie Fish’s star map, the influence of race and religion, and the case’s lasting impact on UFO culture. He also shares his own view of what the Hills may have encountered and why conventional explanations remain unconvincing.

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A 1988 Report of a UFO Landing on Frozen Lake Erie

by UFO History Buff & Author, Charles Lear 

At the top of the first page of National Investigations Committee on Aerial Phenomena 1988 Chronology on the NICAP website, there is an illustration depicting what witnesses said they saw land on a frozen section of Lake Erie in March of that year. The report comes from Eastlake, Ohio, and witnesses include members of the Coast Guard. Under the illustration is a link to the NICAP Case Directory page covering the incident along with this brief description: “Coast Guard witnesses, large illuminated ellipse hovering over Lake Erie, landing on ice. Smaller triangular objects emerged, zipped around independently.”

The Case Directory page has a brief summary by webmaster Fran Ridge of events which began at 8:35 p.m.  According to Ridge, this case, which is “one of FUFOR’s (Fund for UFO Research) top cases,” had a possible “nuclear connection” (a nuclear power plant was nearby), and involved a “huge, gunmetal gray, football-shaped object that was rocking back and forth” which “was first observed by five people.”

Below the summary are links to “detailed reports and documents” which include the report from FUFOR, the partial transcript of an interview with the primary witnesses, the Coast Guard report, an email thread, and correspondence from the researchers. Read more

773. Rabbi Michael “Moshe” Rothschild UFOs and Religion

Rabbi Michael “Moshe” Rothschild joins Martin Willis for a thought-provoking conversation about UFOs, extraterrestrial life, disclosure, and what confirmation of nonhuman intelligence could mean for religion. Rothschild recounts his own close sighting of a bright orange plasma-like object and explains why he believes some UFOs may represent nonhuman intelligence. They explore whether extraterrestrial life would challenge Judaism, possible interpretations of Ezekiel’s wheel, Kabbalah, consciousness, alleged abduction experiences, government transparency, whistleblower protections, and former Israeli space security chief Chaim Eshed’s controversial claims concerning a Galactic Federation and extraterrestrial cooperation. The conversation ultimately asks whether humanity is ready for disclosure and why an advanced intelligence might choose ambiguity instead of unmistakable open contact.

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772. Filmmaker Luigi Vendittelli, and Martin Deabte The Bob Lazar Story

Filmmaker Luigi Vendittelli, director and producer of S4: The Bob Lazar Story, joins Martin Willis for a spirited and sometimes heated examination of Bob Lazar’s extraordinary and controversial claims. Martin remains deeply skeptical, while Luigi spent four and a half years working with Lazar and believes important parts of his story deserve serious consideration. They discuss Lazar’s disputed education, Los Alamos employment, alleged security clearance and work at S4, inconsistencies in his descriptions of the Sport Model, Papoose Lake, Element 115, the reported test flight, the lack of independently verifiable evidence and whether Lazar should truly be considered a whistleblower. It is a candid conversation between two people with very different perspectives who are willing to challenge one another without pretending they agree.

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An Academic Looks Into the Men in Black After a Man in Black Looked Into him

by UFO History Buff & Author, Charles Lear 

UFOlogy has always attracted its fair share of academics, and some have managed to incorporate it into their fields of study. Fields such as astronomy, psychology, sociology, history and folklore studies lend themselves easily to the subject, and the literature is filled with books, papers, and articles, often in peer-reviewed journals, by professionals in those fields. Two famous examples are Dr. J. Allen Hynek and Dr. Jacques Vallée. Some were drawn to the subject because of a personal experience (Vallée had a sighting as a teenager) and one of those was Julliard professor of humanities and folklore, Peter Rojcewicz. He focused on Men in Black stories, wrote an article that was published in an academic journal in 1987, and then made the news when he lectured on the subject.

Rojcewicz wrote a 13-page article titled, “The ‘Men in Black’ Experience and Tradition: Analogues with the Traditional Devil Hypothesis,” that was published in the April-June 1987 (Vol. 100, No. 396, pp. 148-160) Journal of American Folklore.

In his article, Rojcewicz traces the origin of the modern Men in Black “tradition” to Albert K. Bender who shut down his organization, the International Flying Saucer Bureau, in 1953 after claiming he was visited by three MiBs. Rojcewicz describes the reported appearances and behaviors of the MiB that are familiar to many readers, provides first-hand accounts, compares the MiB tradition with the Devil tradition, and concludes that folklorists should entertain “the possibility that a real experience lies behind traditional belief.”

In 1990, Rojcewicz spoke in Minnesota, as part of a lecture series presented by Medtronic, which brought in people from the world of alternative science and the paranormal to speak about their work. Covering his talk is the article (page 1 of the pdf) by Gordon Slovut headlined, “Encounters With ‘Men in Black’: Fact or Fantasy?” published in the March 24, 199o, Minneapolis Star Tribune. Read more

771. Former NASA Greg Martins

Retired NASA aerospace engineer Greg Martins joins Martin Willis to discuss his 35-year career at Goddard Space Flight Center, a childhood UFO sighting and his claimed extraterrestrial encounters through dreams, meditation and out-of-body experiences. Greg also explores consciousness, the Akashic Records, “home planets,” Oversouls and the experiences described in his book, Star Journey Home. Martin approaches these extraordinary claims with an open mind and gentle skepticism.

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770. Mike Gold: NASA’s UAP Files

Former senior NASA official and space policy expert Mike Gold joins Martin Willis and special co-host, astronomer Marc D’Antonio, for a candid discussion about NASA, UAP and the stigma that continues to discourage serious scientific investigation. Gold explains that NASA’s UAP Independent Study Team was never asked to examine historical cases or analyze UAP evidence; instead, it was tasked with determining whether NASA should investigate the subject and which agency resources could be used. He discusses proposals to employ artificial intelligence and machine learning to search NASA’s enormous archives, add UAP to NASA’s confidential Aviation Safety Reporting System, and independently examine unexplained imagery from the Moon, Mars and space—including the unusual triangular formation photographed during Apollo 17. The conversation also examines allegations of altered or withheld NASA imagery, professional threats faced by academics who merely ask questions about UAP, and why Gold believes stigma creates a national security vulnerability by providing potential cover for adversarial drones. Gold says disclosure should be viewed as a continuing process of releasing and objectively examining data, and he believes increasingly significant material may emerge as the government works through declassification. The discussion concludes with commercial spaceflight, SpaceX, America’s competition with China, manufacturing human tissue and pharmaceuticals in microgravity, the future of Mars exploration, and why greater government transparency could help restore public trust. Join us for a thoughtful, science-based conversation that follows the evidence without assuming the answer.

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