Simulcast on YouTube, Facebook & Twitter | Tuesday, September 29, 2026 @ 8:00 PM EDT (GMT-4)
Did British special forces recover an unexplained craft in northern England? What did RAF aircrews reportedly encounter when ordered to intercept UFOs? Former British military intelligence officer and Parachute Regiment veteran Franc S. Milburn joins Martin Willis on Podcast UFO to discuss extraordinary accounts shared with him by fellow military veterans. These include an alleged late-1980s recovery operation involving a craft described by his source as “non-human,” and claims from RAF Tornado aircrews that they fired on disc-shaped objects that outmaneuvered their jets. We’ll explore how Milburn assesses these sources, what corroboration is available, and the questions these accounts raise about secrecy and alleged UFO retrieval programs. These are accounts relayed to Milburn, rather than events he personally witnessed; the UK Ministry of Defence told the Daily Mail it was unaware of salvage operations involving materials of unexplained origin. Our discussion will also cover the USS Nimitz encounter, Pentagon UAP investigations, and the potential strategic implications of reported advanced aerospace capabilities. Milburn is the author of the Begin-Sadat Center papers The Pentagon’s UAP Task Force and American Development of UAP Technology: A Fait Accompli?
BIO: Franc Milburn is a former UK Defence Intelligence officer, Army Paratrooper, DoD / State Department military contractor and consultant. He has run on-the-ground HUMINT operations in conflict zones with Special Operations teams. He has three decades of analytical, investigatory and risk advisory experience, including aerospace, Fortune 500 and FTSE 100. An alumnus of Sandhurst and the London School of Economics, he’s a member of the Scientific Coalition for UAP Studies. The Begin-Sadat Center for Strategic Studies published two UAP papers of his. He is also a think tank expert on Iran, Kurdish insurgency and increasingly, on Russian hybrid warfare in Europe, with a special focus on drone operations targeting military assets and critical infrastructure. He was the very first to write highly prescient open-source assessments of Russian Shadow Fleet drone operations in the Danish Straits (Sept-Oct 2025 and Feb 2026), as well as for UK airbase incursions in November 2024. He provides risk advisory and intelligence services to C-Suite and high net-worth individuals.
Martin Willis welcomes Navy veteran Jimmy Hernandez III and filmmaker David Beaty for a closer look at the 2004 USS Nimitz Tic Tac encounter. In his first live public interview, Jimmy recounts hearing Commander David Fravor’s startled radio communications while working in Primary Flight Control, witnessing men removing recordings, and signing a nondisclosure agreement. He explains why he remained silent for years, even with his wife. Beaty discusses his expanded documentary, The Nimitz Encounters, as the conversation explores conflicting witness accounts, missing data, radar spoofing theories, and the unanswered questions surrounding this remarkable UFO case.
Serving UK Police Inspector Roy Teague joins Martin Willis to discuss Close Encounters of the Police Kind and his interviews with more than 300 serving and retired officers about UFO and paranormal experiences. Roy shares accounts of a police helicopter crew watching a craft apparently disappear into a “hole in the sky,” an unusual RAF radar incident, and a black triangle encounter involving electrical failures and missing time. They explore alleged abductions, Roy’s investigative methods, and the professional stigma that can keep officers silent for decades.
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Guitarist Kevin Estrella joins Martin Willis to recount a 2014 UFO sighting over Hamilton, Ontario, and the ongoing encounters he believes have influenced his music as Pyramids on Mars. Kevin describes “musical downloads,” invisible visitors, and a melody he believes translates to “Do you hear me?” Martin asks about evidence and the purpose of these reported encounters, while audience questions explore telepathy, first-contact predictions, and humanity’s readiness for contact.
Longtime UFO researcher Norio Hayakawa joins Martin Willis to explore whether UFO encounters could involve something other than physical extraterrestrial spacecraft. From his father’s reported 1947 sighting in Japan to the Socorro encounter and the mysteries of Dulce, Norio shares the experiences and research behind his unconventional perspective. Topics include his “paraphysical” theory, government secrecy and disclosure, the Farmington sightings, Fátima, Project Gasbuggy, and cattle mutilations. Martin offers questions and pushback throughout a conversation that examines the distinction between witness reports, personal beliefs, and verifiable evidence.
British UFO researcher, author and publisher Philip Mantle joins Martin Willis to discuss UFO Reflections and more than four decades of investigation. Topics include Charles Forgus’s claimed Roswell testimony, the Alien Autopsy hoax, the reported 1980 Normanton UFO landing, and new witnesses and recordings connected to the Pascagoula encounter. Philip also reflects on his friendship with Calvin Parker, the importance of preserving forgotten testimony, and the growing challenge of AI-generated UFO misinformation.
Former U.S. Navy F/A-18 pilot Alex Dietrich joins Martin Willis for a candid conversation about the November 14, 2004, Tic Tac UFO encounter off Southern California. Flying alongside Commander David Fravor, Dietrich witnessed an unidentified white object near an unusual disturbance in the ocean during a routine training mission with the USS Nimitz Carrier Strike Group. Dietrich recounts what she saw, the uncertainty she felt, and what she learned years later about the USS Princeton’s unusual radar contacts before the encounter. She also reflects on the personal challenges of speaking publicly and why acknowledging what we don’t know matters. It’s a thoughtful firsthand account of one of the most widely discussed UFO encounters in modern history.
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Martin Willis interviews Dean Merchant live at the Rye Public Library for a fascinating discussion about UFOs in New Hampshire, including the legendary 1965 Incident at Exeter. The program features firsthand testimony from Mike Geanoulis who describes seeing a massive object with extremely bright red lights over the Exeter area, as well as retired Exeter police officer George Dufour, who served on the force at the time and personally knew officers Gene Bertrand and David Hunt. Dean also explores the Betty and Barney Hill case, Stratham Hill, Pawtuckaway, Raymond, Ossipee, the White Mountains, and other New Hampshire UFO hotspots, along with theories involving nuclear activity, geology, and decades of unexplained sightings across the Granite State.
Veteran UFO researcher Rich Hoffman joins Martin Willis to discuss his remarkable six-decade journey, from investigating sightings near Project Blue Book as a teenager to helping lead the Scientific Coalition for UAP Studies. Rich examines the Tic Tac encounter, reported radar jamming, government transparency, private defense contractors and the limitations of UAP videos without adequate data. They also explore the New Jersey drone wave, AI-generated UFO footage, common misidentifications, near-death experiences and the possibility that science has only begun to understand the true nature of UAP and consciousness.
Australian UAP researcher, activist and podcaster Grant Lavac joins Martin Willis to discuss Australia’s continuing reluctance to investigate unidentified anomalous phenomena, despite its participation in the Five Eyes UAP Caucus Working Group. Grant examines Australia’s lack of a formal reporting system for military personnel and civilian pilots, what his Freedom of Information research suggests may be happening behind closed doors, and why some Australian pilots have instead submitted reports to Ryan Graves’s Americans for Safe Aerospace. The conversation also explores new developments surrounding the 1966 Westall UFO incident, the mysterious disappearance of pilot Frederick Valentich, and the Australian government’s failure to respond to calls for an independent Westall inquiry. Martin and Grant also confront the UFO community’s growing “disclosure fatigue” and ask whether it is finally time for firsthand witnesses, verifiable evidence and receipts.
Retired U.S. Air Force Pararescueman Scott Gearen discusses the mysterious aerial object he photographed and filmed for approximately three and a half hours over Panama City Beach, Florida. He explains why he rejected the weather-balloon explanation, what appeared in the enhanced images and why he wonders whether the object could have been biological or intelligently controlled. Near the end, Scott shares his remarkable near-death experience following a catastrophic 1987 parachuting accident—and how he later returned to complete more than 500 additional jumps.