UPCOMING: Lue Elizondo

Simulcast on YouTube, Facebook & Twitter | Tuesday, October 06, 2026 @ 8:00 PM EDT (GMT-4)

In this wide ranging, in person conversation, Martin Willis sits down with Lue Elizondo for a candid discussion about where the UAP issue stands today and what may come next. Elizondo reveals that he has returned to the Washington, D.C. area and says he is once again working for the U.S. government, supporting government efforts while continuing to advocate for greater transparency and disclosure surrounding UAP. Although he cannot discuss the specifics of his current role, he says he was asked to return and remains actively involved behind the scenes. The conversation explores why some UAP information remains classified, the challenges of disclosure, and whether the government itself actually understands the full scope of the phenomenon. Elizondo also discusses the secrecy restrictions he says prevent him from talking about alleged crash retrieval programs, including a document he signed that he says remains binding for life. Martin asks about the long discussed 23 minute UAP video, and Elizondo says he believes it will eventually be seen publicly, but adds that even more compelling footage exists, including imagery of objects reportedly coming extremely close to military aircraft. They also discuss recently released NASA material, unusual observations associated with the Moon, historical UAP performance characteristics, and Elizondo’s view that some of what has been observed cannot reasonably be attributed to secret American technology. Elizondo also responds to recent claims involving Ross Coulthart, saying information reported about him and former Director of National Intelligence James Clapper was inaccurate, while making clear that he continues to respect Coulthart and his contributions to disclosure. The discussion goes deeper into the implications of UAP. What if humanity is not at the top of the technological hierarchy? How much of reality are our biological senses incapable of perceiving? And what happens to society when long held assumptions about our place in the universe begin to change? Finally, Martin gets a rare glimpse of the person behind the public figure as Elizondo discusses his fascination with time, restoring vintage mechanical watches, and why bringing an old timepiece back to life has such personal meaning for him. A candid and far reaching conversation with Lue Elizondo about UAP, secrecy, disclosure, government, science, the unknown, and the human side of one of the most recognizable figures in the modern UAP discussion. Hosted by Martin Willis, Podcast UFO.

788. Analytical Researcher, Matt Moniz on UFO Materials

Martin Willis welcomes analytical chemist and longtime paranormal researcher Matt Moniz for a fascinating discussion of the physical evidence surrounding UFO and abduction cases. Matt describes his laboratory examination of material from Betty Hill’s dress, including microscopy and chromatography comparing affected areas with control samples, and discusses other materials he has collected or studied from notable UFO cases. He explains the importance of provenance, contamination, metallurgy and isotope ratios when evaluating alleged UFO materials and discusses several classic cases he believes deserve further scientific investigation. The conversation then becomes deeply personal as Matt recounts his own claimed abduction experiences beginning in early childhood, including encounters he says continued throughout his life and an extraordinary later meeting with someone he remembered from one of those experiences. Martin and Matt also explore consciousness, ghosts, paranormal investigation and the difficult question of how science can approach phenomena that are unpredictable and difficult to reproduce.

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787. Franc Milburn

Former British military intelligence officer Franc S. Milburn joins Martin Willis to discuss military accounts of an alleged UFO retrieval in northern England and RAF encounters, distinguishing what his sources told him from what he can verify. He also explores the Nimitz Tic Tac incident, his exchanges with Eric Davis, and his family’s reported experiences. Milburn then presents his case for Russian drone operations behind incidents at UK airbases and around the Baltic Sea, emphasizing the importance of separating conventional threats from unexplained UAP.

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Show 788. Notes: Researcher Matt Moniz

Simulcast on YouTube, Facebook & Twitter | Thursday, October 01, 2026 @ 8:00 PM EDT (GMT-4)

Martin Willis welcomes analytical chemist and longtime paranormal researcher Matt Moniz to Podcast UFO. For more than 35 years, Matt has worked in analytical chemistry, with experience in environmental, commercial testing, pharmaceutical, and biotechnology laboratories. Outside the conventional laboratory, he has brought scientific testing and methodology to some decidedly unconventional subjects—including alleged UFO materials, alien abduction cases, crop circles, psychic phenomena, ghosts, cryptozoology, and other unexplained phenomena. Matt has served for many years as Science Advisor for Spooky Southcoast and was a producer, researcher, and cameraman for 30 Odd Minutes. His work has brought him into direct contact with investigators throughout the UFO and paranormal communities, and his scientific analysis has been referenced in numerous books and television productions. In this conversation, Martin and Matt explore what happens when extraordinary claims are subjected to laboratory testing. What can analytical chemistry actually tell us about alleged UFO evidence? What constitutes a meaningful anomaly? How do contamination, provenance, and chain of custody affect results? And after decades of investigating extraordinary claims, has Matt encountered anything that science simply couldn’t explain?

Betty Hill’s Dress she wore during abduction

BIO: Matt Moniz has been a scientist for the last 35 years in the field of analytical chemistry, working in the past for environmental, commercial/contract product testing, and pharmaceutical laboratories. He is also the science advisor for a weekly radio show Spooky Southcoast the last 19 years and the Audio Video Manager for the UFO Monument Park and Paraween, and Inner Space TV. Matt was also one of the producers of 30 Odd Minutes and researcher and cameramen for the show. He’s worked first hand with the world’s best in paranormal research, conducting scientific tests on materials connected to things like: UFOs and alien abductions, Crop circles, Witchcraft, psychic phenomena, ghosts, cryptozoology, and a multitude of other related topics. His scientific work is featured in dozens of books pertaining to these fields, and has appeared on numerous TV shows and documentaries about the paranormal: Monster Quest, Beyond Skinwalker Ranch, Expedition X, Ghost Adventurer, Conversations With a Serial Killer, and more.

Gulf Breeze UFO Saga

by UFO History Buff & Author, Charles Lear 

On November 19, 1987, the Sentinel out of Gulf Breeze, Florida, published three pictures of a well-defined, lit-up UFO under the headline, “UFO Sighted Over Gulf Breeze.” The caption under the photo asks anyone who saw the object or had information about it to call the Sentinel. Along with the photos is a letter from the photographer that begins, “To whom it may concern.” The writer explains that the pictures were taken on November 11th and that he showed them to “Ed.” According to him, “Ed, in turn said the photos should be shown to the press.” He adds, “That is why he is showing them to you.” While he emphasizes that he is a “prominent citizen” and needs anonymity, he says he might come forward “if these photos and story spark any interest in your readership.” The photos became the subject of a long investigation led by the Mutual UFO Network. More photos and a videotape followed, and the photographer remained anonymous until just before the publication of his book. At around the same time, a discovery in the attic of his former house by the new owner cast serious doubt on his story.

The Sentinel stuck with the story for over two years due to Editor Duane Cook’s faith in the photographer’s credibility. The December 3, 1987, Sentinel has the article (page 6 of the pdf) headlined, “UFO – Follow Up – More Sightings Reported.” It begins with the background that the Sentinel has been keeping tabs on local UFO sightings since it published the photos taken on November 11th. It is reported that a photo of a “similar object” taken over a year earlier in June of 1986 had been submitted and it is printed below in the section headed “Letters to the Editor.” The November 11th photo is printed next to it for comparison, and the objects pictured in both are more identical than similar. The photographer of the 1986 photo wrote that he/she was “relieved to see the UFO photos” as they looked “just like the photos I took last June ‘86.” Even though there is only one photo from the writer published, he/she says that two photos were taken while facing south on Shoreline Drive. This photographer also wished to remain anonymous. Read more →

Show Notes Ep. 787: Franc S. Milburn

Simulcast on YouTube, Facebook & Twitter | Tuesday, September 29, 2026 @ 8:00 PM EDT (GMT-4)

Did British special forces recover an unexplained craft in northern England? What did RAF aircrews reportedly encounter when ordered to intercept UFOs? Former British military intelligence officer and Parachute Regiment veteran Franc S. Milburn joins Martin Willis on Podcast UFO to discuss extraordinary accounts shared with him by fellow military veterans. These include an alleged late-1980s recovery operation involving a craft described by his source as “non-human,” and claims from RAF Tornado aircrews that they fired on disc-shaped objects that outmaneuvered their jets. We’ll explore how Milburn assesses these sources, what corroboration is available, and the questions these accounts raise about secrecy and alleged UFO retrieval programs. These are accounts relayed to Milburn, rather than events he personally witnessed; the UK Ministry of Defence told the Daily Mail it was unaware of salvage operations involving materials of unexplained origin. Our discussion will also cover the USS Nimitz encounter, Pentagon UAP investigations, and the potential strategic implications of reported advanced aerospace capabilities. Milburn is the author of the Begin-Sadat Center papers The Pentagon’s UAP Task Force and American Development of UAP Technology: A Fait Accompli?

https://independent.academia.edu/FrancMilburn

BIO: Franc Milburn is a former UK Defence Intelligence officer, Army Paratrooper, DoD / State Department military contractor and consultant. He has run on-the-ground HUMINT operations in conflict zones with Special Operations teams. He has three decades of analytical, investigatory and risk advisory experience, including aerospace, Fortune 500 and FTSE 100. An alumnus of Sandhurst and the London School of Economics, he’s a member of the Scientific Coalition for UAP Studies. The Begin-Sadat Center for Strategic Studies published two UAP papers of his. He is also a think tank expert on Iran, Kurdish insurgency and increasingly, on Russian hybrid warfare in Europe, with a special focus on drone operations targeting military assets and critical infrastructure. He was the very first to write highly prescient open-source assessments of Russian Shadow Fleet drone operations in the Danish Straits (Sept-Oct 2025 and Feb 2026), as well as for UK airbase incursions in November 2024. He provides risk advisory and intelligence services to C-Suite and high net-worth individuals.

786. Navy veteran Jimmy Hernandez III and filmmaker David Beaty

Martin Willis welcomes Navy veteran Jimmy Hernandez III and filmmaker David Beaty for a closer look at the 2004 USS Nimitz Tic Tac encounter. In his first live public interview, Jimmy recounts hearing Commander David Fravor’s startled radio communications while working in Primary Flight Control, witnessing men removing recordings, and signing a nondisclosure agreement. He explains why he remained silent for years, even with his wife. Beaty discusses his expanded documentary, The Nimitz Encounters, as the conversation explores conflicting witness accounts, missing data, radar spoofing theories, and the unanswered questions surrounding this remarkable UFO case.

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785. Roy Teague

Serving UK Police Inspector Roy Teague joins Martin Willis to discuss Close Encounters of the Police Kind and his interviews with more than 300 serving and retired officers about UFO and paranormal experiences. Roy shares accounts of a police helicopter crew watching a craft apparently disappear into a “hole in the sky,” an unusual RAF radar incident, and a black triangle encounter involving electrical failures and missing time. They explore alleged abductions, Roy’s investigative methods, and the professional stigma that can keep officers silent for decades.

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PART II: A 1976 UFO and Occupant Report From the Canary Islands

by UFO History Buff & Author, Charles Lear 

In last week’s blog, we looked at a case from the Canary Islands involving thousands of people reporting that at around 10:30 p.m. on June 22, 1976, they saw a huge sphere of light in the western sky. The Spanish Air Force investigated, and included in the case file (released on July 22, 1994) are testimonies from members of the crew of the Atrevida, a Spanish Navy corvette, and Dr. Francisco Julio Padrón. The captain of the Atrevida said that a “luminous point of intense bluish-yellow” came up from the ground and reached an altitude of 15-18 degrees where it stayed for about two minutes while “generating a large halo of intense bluish-yellow light that persisted in the same position for forty minutes.” This matches almost all of the other reports. Padrón, on the other hand, said that while in a taxi on his way to see a patient in the town of Gáldar, he saw a transparent sphere 60 yards away that had two red humanoids inside. Even though Padrón’s description was unique and dismissed by the Air Force investigator, many accounts of the case focus on it, from the first reports in the press up until the present day. The cause of the sightings remained a mystery until two Spanish investigators, Vincente-Juan Ballester Olmos and Ricardo Campo Pérez, looked into the case and came up with a likely explanation.

Campo wrote the article headlined “Dos Gigantes Rojos Cabalgando un Misil” (Two Red Giants Riding a Missile) that was posted on June 22, 2016 (the 40th anniversary of the sightings), on the Naukas website. In it, he is highly critical of the press and others who promoted Padrón’s story to the extent that what was seen by people all over the Canary Islands became known as the “Gáldar UFO.” Read more →

SHOW 786 NOTES: David Beaty and Jimmy Hernandez III

Simulcast on YouTube, Facebook & Twitter | Thursday, September 24, 2026 @ 8:00 PM EDT (GMT-4)

A witness from USS Nimitz Primary Flight Control steps forward to share an account he says he kept even from his wife for years. Join Martin Willis LIVE on Podcast UFO, Thursday, September 24, at 8:00 PM ET, with Navy veteran Jimmy Hernandez III and filmmaker David Beaty, director of The Nimitz Encounters: Inside the Navy’s UFO Mystery. Stationed aboard USS Nimitz from July 2001 to June 2006, Jimmy worked in Primary Flight Control directly under the Air Boss and Mini Boss. In his first live interview, he discusses his perspective on the 2004 Tic Tac incident, his account of men arriving to take recordings, and why he remained silent for so long. Jimmy says his commitment to following orders was so strong that he only told his wife about the incident a few months before recording his interview for Beaty’s documentary. David joins us to discuss his updated 2026 film, which revisits the encounter with additional witness testimony and new forensic recreations. We’ll explore the film’s claims concerning confiscated recordings, rewritten logs, and CIA operations, and ask what can be established through testimony and supporting evidence. What did Jimmy personally observe? What happened inside Primary Flight Control? And what questions remain more than two decades later? 

BIO: Jimmy Hernandez III, 47, is a U.S. Navy veteran who served aboard USS Nimitz from July 2001 to June 2006. He and his wife, Jennifer M. Rogers Hernandez, have been married for 11 years. His commitment to following orders led him to keep his account of the Tic Tac incident private, even from his wife, until a few months before his interview for The Nimitz Encounters. Jimmy comes from a family with a history of military service. His maternal grandfather served as a machine gunner aboard a tracked landing vehicle in the Pacific during World War II, and his paternal grandfather served in the Korean War. He enlisted in the Navy in March 2001 and reported aboard Nimitz that July, shortly after the ship emerged from dry dock at Naval Station Norfolk, Virginia. Following the September 11 attacks, the ship changed its homeport to Naval Air Station North Island in San Diego, California. During his time aboard Nimitz, Jimmy completed two Western Pacific deployments and worked in Primary Flight Control directly under the Air Boss and Mini Boss. In 2006, he transferred to shore duty at Naval Outlying Landing Field San Nicolas Island. In 2008, he volunteered for an Individual Augmentee assignment and trained with the Army at Fort Bliss, Texas, before deploying to Iraq with Naval Provisional Detainee Battalion Ramadi 2. He conducted detainee operations briefly at Camp Bucca and later at Camp Taji. Jimmy completed his active duty service honorably after eight years, eleven months, and nineteen days and held an active Secret security clearance until 2013.

BIO: Multi Emmy-Award winning television producer and cinematographer Dave C. Beaty is a UFO researcher, former broadcast journalist, and currently a filmmaker. His career in non-fiction television and documentary spans 30+ years with production company Cinegraphic Productions. Career highlights include national programing on PBS, History Channel, Travel Channel and A&E and includes work on all major news networks and cable networks. A seven-time Emmy-winner, his current work includes producing more than a dozen nationally televised films in partnership with The WWII Foundation, preserving WWII history with multiple documentary films.

www.cinegraphicproductions.com

www.thenimitzencounters.com

www.wwiifoundation.org

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SHOW 785 NOTES: UK Police Inspector Roy Teague

Simulcast on YouTube, Facebook & Twitter | Tuesday, September 22, 2026 @ 8:00 PM EDT (GMT-4)

What happens when the people trained to investigate the unexplained become the witnesses? Serving UK Police Inspector Roy Teague joins host Martin Willis to discuss UFO encounters reported by serving and retired police officers—including accounts involving missing time and alleged abduction experiences. A British Army veteran with more than 26 years in policing, Roy’s background includes armed response, tactical firearms command and protection duties for members of the Royal Family and Parliament. His investigations into UFOs and paranormal events have led him to interview more than 250 serving and retired officers, many sharing experiences they had previously kept private.His book, Close Encounters of the Police Kind, brings together previously unheard accounts from UK police witnesses. We’ll explore what officers reported, why some were reluctant to speak, and how Roy approaches extraordinary claims with an investigator’s attention to evidence.How are UFO incidents perceived, reported and investigated within UK policing? What can an officer’s training bring to an account—and what questions remain unanswered?

BOOK: Close Encounters of the Police Kind
YOUTUBE CHANNEL: Policing the Unexplained
CONTACT: contact@policingtheunexplained.com

Insp Roy Teague Bio
Inspector Roy Teague served six years in the British Army, completing operational tours in both Northern Ireland and Bosnia before embarking on a distinguished policing career spanning more than twenty-six years across two police forces. Throughout his career, Roy has led a frontline existence working on emergency response, proactive teams and the elite Firearms Operations Unit of West Midlands Police as an Authorised Firearms Officer and both an operational and Tactical Firearms Commander, where calm judgement and decisive action are demanded in the most dangerous of circumstances. Many of these operations have led to the arrest of some of the country’s most dangerous armed criminals. He has also led protection details for some of the country’s most important figures including members of the Royal Family and Parliament. He has been awarded numerous commendations for bravery including one from a Chief Constable and another from a High Court Judge at the Old Bailey in his own attempted murder trial. His career has been built on evidence, discipline and an unwavering pursuit of the truth. Yet it is another skill that has taken him into territory few police officers have ever explored. A world just beyond our own – a place where mankind has no jurisdiction – where reality rides a razor thin seam between fact and impossibility – the world of UFOs, and the paranormal. In the perplexing field of unexplained studies, where hard evidence is often elusive, credibility remains the cornerstone of serious investigation. Roy’s reputation for professionalism and discretion enabled him to earn the trust of those trained to observe, question and report facts. That reputation opened the door to one of the most remarkable investigations of his career: interviewing more than 250 serving and retired police officers about their own encounters with unexplained aerial phenomena and paranormal events. Officers with nothing to gain and everything to lose finally broke their silence describing extraordinary close encounters involving missing time and alleged abduction experiences. The officers spoke because one of their own was asking the questions —and because they knew they would be treated with professionalism, respect and without ridicule. That research culminated in the publication of Close Encounters of the Police Kind, a unique investigation unlike any before it: law enforcement interviewing law enforcement about a phenomenon that has remained hidden behind the badge for decades. Blending the rigour of criminal investigation with first-hand testimony from experienced police officers, Roy offers readers a rare glimpse into a world where the unexplained collides with those sworn to uphold the law.

784. Kevin Estrella

Guitarist Kevin Estrella joins Martin Willis to recount a 2014 UFO sighting over Hamilton, Ontario, and the ongoing encounters he believes have influenced his music as Pyramids on Mars. Kevin describes “musical downloads,” invisible visitors, and a melody he believes translates to “Do you hear me?” Martin asks about evidence and the purpose of these reported encounters, while audience questions explore telepathy, first-contact predictions, and humanity’s readiness for contact.

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783. Longtime UFO researcher Norio Hayakawa

Longtime UFO researcher Norio Hayakawa joins Martin Willis to explore whether UFO encounters could involve something other than physical extraterrestrial spacecraft. From his father’s reported 1947 sighting in Japan to the Socorro encounter and the mysteries of Dulce, Norio shares the experiences and research behind his unconventional perspective. Topics include his “paraphysical” theory, government secrecy and disclosure, the Farmington sightings, Fátima, Project Gasbuggy, and cattle mutilations. Martin offers questions and pushback throughout a conversation that examines the distinction between witness reports, personal beliefs, and verifiable evidence.

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Show 784 Notes: Kevin Estrella

Simulcast on YouTube, Facebook & Twitter | Thursday, September 17, 2026 @ 8:00 PM EDT (GMT-4)

Could a UFO encounter change the way someone creates music? Guitarist and experiencer Kevin Estrella joins Martin Willis to explore his reported encounters, telepathic experiences, and the mysterious inspiration behind his instrumental rock project, Pyramids on Mars. Kevin traces a turning point to August 21, 2014, when he says he encountered a craft he believed was of otherworldly origin. He describes subsequent experiences involving vivid dreams, symbols, synchronicities, and “musical downloads,” melodies and ideas he attributes to nonhuman intelligence. His album Cosmic Angels draws inspiration from these reported visitations, blending hard rock and metal with influences from Bach and Vivaldi. Kevin also explores connections he sees between music, telepathic storytelling, and the tonal communication of whales.

BIO: Kevin Estrella, the Canadian solo guitarist and composer behind Pyramids on Mars. For more than 20 years, Kevin has researched UFOs and extraterrestrial phenomena in an effort to better understand why they are here and what their presence may mean for humanity. His lifelong passion for UFOs, extraterrestrials, and higher consciousness eventually merged with his musical calling, giving rise to the instrumental rock project Pyramids on Mars. Known for a powerful blend of hard rock, industrial, and psychedelic metal, Kevin’s music is also shaped by melodic influences from Baroque composers such as Bach and Vivaldi. His albums include Echo Cosmic and Edge of the Black.

Kevin’s music | UFO radio show | Official First Contact

Show 783 Notes: Norio Hayakawa

Simulcast on YouTube, Facebook & Twitter | Tuesday, September 15, 2026 @ 8:00 PM EDT (GMT-4)

What if UFOs are real, but the extraterrestrial explanation is wrong? Longtime UFO researcher Norio Hayakawa joins Martin Willis on Podcast UFO to explore that question through his decades of interest in Area 51, Dulce, New Mexico, and the broader UFO mystery. Hayakawa began studying the subject in 1961 and questions the evidence behind claims of alien spacecraft and underground alien bases. Background and research interests Our planned discussion explores why he favors a “paraphysical” interpretation, meaning an intelligence that he believes can temporarily appear within our physical world. We will also examine how his Christian beliefs inform his thinking about the phenomenon, deception, and alleged encounters. These are Hayakawa’s personal interpretations, open to discussion and questioning. Hayakawa’s explanation of his views Where does the evidence lead, where does belief enter the picture, and what would it take to change his mind?

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Explore Norio’s writing: Norio Hayakawa’s website: https://noriohayakawa.wordpress.com

BIO: Norio Hayakawa is an Albuquerque, New Mexico, UFO researcher who began studying the subject in 1961. His longtime interests include Area 51 and Dulce. His writing combines skepticism toward alien visitation claims with a personal belief that the phenomenon may have a paraphysical or spiritual origin.

 

Fatima: Miracle of the Sun
Upcoming guests: Tony Woody (10-15), Lue Elizondo (10-06), Allagash Abductees, Charlie Foltz & Jim Weiner (10-13), Jeff Nuccelli (10-20)