By Martin Willis
Updated July 31, 2023
Recently I attended the July 26, 2023 UAP Hearing in Washington, DC, and spoke with a number of people there on several topics. It is almost rare that Bob Lazar’s name does not come up sooner or later. People seem to think the whistleblowers claims are a vindication of Lazar’s claims. Jeremy Corbell is friends with both David Fravor, as well as Bob Lazar, and unfortunately, Fravor is relying on Jeremy’s account of Bob Lazar’s claims and most likely has not taken any time at all to do any research. As I reflect since I have written the blog below in June of 2022, I have a new speculation. Under any possible circumstances, the US government would not have hired Bob Lazar, all you have to do is commit to reading my entire blog below, and looking at my links and sources. The more I contemplate Lazar over the years, the more I believe he actually knew someone who worked at Area 51, was told some of what was going on, and decided to take on that person’s persona. This would explain a lot, and answer all the reasons why he seemed to have known some of the things he knew and talked about. If you do the research work that I have done, you will find it impossible that he would have actually been the one that was hired, had a top level security clearance and worked there. He has done a remarkable job convincing so many, my hat is off to him for that. The government involved in Area 51, probably think it is a perfect disinformation campaign (some truth & fantasy) that diverts attention away from what they may be developing there. Maybe that original person did see craft and was tasked to attempt to reverse engineer. The government has never had an opinion on Bob Lazar that I can find, and if he were telling the truth, it seems they would have taken action.
The original blog is below… thank you for reading.
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“Don’t bother me with the facts, my mind is made up!” ~ Stanton Friedman
As a fine art & antique appraiser, I often get involved in collections of art, documents, coins and more. During my fieldwork, if I come upon a determined fake in the mix, I end up questioning the whole collection. I feel the same way about people, if I am told a lie, I question whatever else they have to say.
I personally would love to believe Bob Lazar’s story, it would be incredible and world changing if true.
I do think Bob is highly intelligent and I do believe that the publicity he has created on the UFO topic has created a lot of good for getting people’s attention. There are some things Bob has spoken about that hint of inside knowledge, Element 115 the least of them. Perhaps there was a connection with someone that John Lear knew, this is only my speculation.
Some suggest that there is no apparent motivation or gain he had to motivate the story. I have not been able to find anything definitive on whether he has profited or not, only speculation that he has. Perhaps fame was a motive, again, I am speculating.
The fact is, Bob Lazar has no doubt lied about his education. To confirm this, I have a close friend who works in the records department at MIT, and has performed a “deep search” for him. This person has stated that they have far reaching search capability, beyond what was available in the past. There is absolutely no way that any entity, including our government could have expunged all records of his attendance and living anywhere in the area. There is nothing at all, and not a single classmate or professor has ever come forward to attest his attendance. During a public forum, Bob was asked what Boston Square was known outside of MIT, and he said he could not remember. If you ask anyone that ever attended MIT the same question, they would reply, “Kendall Square”.
Please take the time to read Stanton Friedman’s article on Bob Lazar’s education . (note 12/06/23) Stanton’s website is currently down. I am trying to help to revive it.
Here is some research into Bob Lazar’s Education.
FACT: In high school, he ranked 261 out of 369, which is in the bottom third. MIT or Caltech would never admit such a student. The evidence points more to him being an electronics technician with a two-year degree from a community college.
After I watched Jeremy’s Corbell’s movie on Lazar, (Bob Lazar: Area 51 & Flying Saucers) I asked him why he did not ask Bob’s mother about her son’s education at MIT while he was interviewing her. You can see his response in the Facebook message exchange. This film has convinced a swath of people that Bob’s story is golden, but not me. If you take the time to research things deeply, you will find there is nothing convincing enough and plenty to question.
I respect George Knapp’s work, but I do believe he is wrong in his backing of Lazar. George is deeply invested in the story and may feel he can never recant at this point. It is a tough place to be in, but I find it difficult to believe that a man with his intelligence has bought the story, hook, line and sinker. There are many circumstances in the Bob Lazar story where things appear to be selectively forced to fit.
In this blog you will see an LA Times article on Bob’s bizarre tale at a 1993 conference, some documents including a 1990 arrest document, where Lazar pleaded guilty to pandering (his partnership in an illegal brothel), his later denial, a 2006 telling plea agreement and last but not least, a white style paper by Michael Schratt with the investigative work of John Andrews. To me, the most telling in this paper is, the claim of an above Q clearance which supposedly was obtained in 8 days. (It is more like 8 months on average for the process.) As a self employed photo processor, he claimed bankruptcy a year prior to his supposed clearance approval. Would the US government give the highest clearance available to someone who owed over $270,000 to creditors and filed Chapter 7 two years prior? Would the government hire someone for the most advanced job in the history of mankind, to reverse engineer alien spacecraft to someone with no known higher education than courses at a junior college? Also, the W-2 he supplied from Naval Intelligence (titled wrong) is another fraud, the Employee Number belongs to the IRS. In Michael Schratt’s paper, you will see the evidence of all of this.
There is a really interesting thread on Reddit well researched with links to documents HERE.
I encourage you to watch body language experts, the Behavior Panel’s observation of Bob’s accounting over the years. Click HERE. You will see some major discrepancies in Bob’s own words. Many people claim his story has been consistent, after you watch this, you will see proof that it has not been so.
Could Bob’s story be partially true? That is up to you to decide after you review everything.
The 1959 sightings of Father William Gill in New Guinea, then an Australian territory, were well known and much discussed in the 1960s and 1970s. Given the multiple witnesses over two nights, observation of occupants and the credibility of the reporting witness, an Anglican missionary, it made for a sensational encounter. Even more incredible, the craft and occupants sighted seemed to respond to the witnesses throughout the encounter. The story was featured in Dr. J. Allen Hynek’s The UFO Experience: A Scientific Enquiry and The Hynek UFO Report, the double album UFO Encounters (which features Father Gill telling his story and Hynek’s commentary) and in the 4th issue of Gold Key’s UFO Flying Saucers comic book.
“You could describe it, I suppose, as a circular ship with a kind of deck and bridge on the top,” Father William Gill stated on the UFO Encounters LP. Further saying that it was “dull yellow, a bright orangey color. It wasn’t as though the thing was itself lit up all around. It was more as though some other light was lighting it up…. All around the whole object was a sparkling effect.” It was silent and as large, he estimated as a five inch object held at arm’s length. Up to four humanoids were seen on the top deck of the craft, as if they were working on something and an “electric blue spotlight” seemed to shoot into the air. Clouds moved in and obscured the object for some time but they eventually cleared allowing the craft to be seen again. Smaller objects, perhaps as many as three, were seen moving in and out of the clouds as well. Shortly before 11:00 PM heavy clouds moved in, obscuring the objects and rain began to fall.