by Charles Lear

    For UFOlogists, Chile is an exceptional country in that it has a publicly acknowledged government UFO investigation organization.  This organization is called the, “Committee for the Studies of Anomalous Aerial Phenomena” and its Spanish acronym is CEFAA.  CEFAA is within the Department of Civil Aeronautics under the jurisdiction of the Chilean Air Force and has an active website where citizens can report UFO sightings.  With official recognition of the phenomenon it should be no surprise that the Chilean public is very open minded about the UFO subject.  According to researcher, Rodrigo Fuenzalita in the first episode of the short lived series, “Shaun Ryder on UFOs” “There is not a single family in Chile without, at least, one or two members who have experienced a sighting.”  The first two episodes of the Ryder series provide a colorful overview and present some of Chile’s most interesting cases.  Further investigation reveals that Chile has a remarkable crash retrieval story with an entire town full of witnesses that rivals that of Roswell. Read more

How do you Capture a Moving Target?

by Charles Lear

  By definition a UFOlogist is a person who studies UFOs.  Well, how does one do that?  If you think about it academically, it’s a very broad field with many possibilities for specialization utilizing many different disciplines.  Say you’re looking at the question: “Are UFOs physical craft piloted by non-terrestrial biological entities?”  Any attempt at answering that question requires knowledge of astronomy, astrophysics, theoretical physics, engineering and biology.  How far back in time do UFO reports go and what has been reported?  To answer that you need to study history.  Are some sightings lights, caused by earthquakes?  That’s geology.  Abduction?  Psychology and sociology have been extensively used regarding this subject.  Ancient alien theorists bring in the discipline of archaeology (most of them rather undisciplined, I’m afraid) and if you specialize in crop circles, knowledge of botany couldn’t hurt.

Obviously the above are way too many disciplines for any one person to master.  A thorough, scientific investigation into the subject would require a collective effort and there are organizations presently using this approach. Recent groups include the Scientific Coalition for Ufology, a “think tank” that has just released a 270 page report on the Nimitz incident and To The Stars Academy, devoted to scientific investigation and possible real world application of exotic technology.  Surely it’s just a matter of time before we have some real answers.  Or, maybe not.

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NY Times Article: The Pentagon’s Mysterious U.F.O. Program. Is this a New Paradigm Shift?

by Martin Willis

Since I started this show in 2011, never have I seen anything like what happened over the weekend! Jokingly, I told Alejandro Rojas that ‘my email was ringing off the hook’. Past guests, both Leslie Kean and Ralph Blumenthal along with New York Times Pentagon Correspondent, Helen Cooper took one small step, that was a giant leap in how people look at the topic of UFOs.

A few days in, and now all of mainstream media has taken the plunge, the people who never even thought about the topic are suddenly talking about it.

I commend all the people involved as well as the NY Times for having the courage to publish the what will be a snowball effect of interest.

For this week’s show, I am reaching out to the authors, and so far have heard back from Helen Cooper who declined by stating that she is ‘too tapped out’.

Read the original NY Times article by  HERE

A video shows an encounter between a Navy F/A-18 Super Hornet and an unknown object. It was released by the Defense Department’s Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program. By Courtesy of U.S. DEPARTMENT OF DEFENSE on Publish Date: December 16, 2017


Listen to the NYTimes Daily Podcast. Episode Excerpt: A Times investigation discovered a shadowy secret program at the Pentagon that looks at the potential threat of U.F.O.s.Guests: Helene Cooper, who covers the Pentagon for The New York Times; Luis Elizondo, an intelligence officer who led the program inside the Pentagon. SOURCE:

Update on Chilean UFO

The Chilean government agency always makes its cases public when an investigation is complete, and acknowledges the existence of UAP when a case merits such a conclusion.


Leslie Kean:

Updated Story in the Huffington Post by Leslie Kean

173. Michael Shermer

bannerFirst up, Mark Rodeghier & Leslie Kean discuss a (Very) Local SETI: The Launch of a New UFO Science and what this means for collecting new data, then Dr. Michael Shermer talks about his skeptical views on UFOs, and abductions and much more. Support the show to join in for hour two to hear him debate Roswell and the Phoenix Lights.    Michael Shermer’s website:

Show Notes

Show Notes: Dr. Michael Shermer

Show 173. October 21st, Mark Rodeghier & Leslie Kean First 40 Minutes

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First: Mark Rodeghier & Leslie Kean on: (Very) Local SETI: The Launch of a New UFO Science

UFODATA – A Way Forward in UFO Science

mark leslieAt UFODATA we seek to create a systematic, rigorous science of UFO phenomena. Such a science is needed because of misplaced certainties on both sides of the UFO debate: “believers” convinced that UFOs are extraterrestrials, and “skeptics” equally convinced that UFOs do not even exist. Our own view is that humanity knows very little about the true nature of unexplained UFO reports, and that the only way to resolve this lack of understanding is through serious scientific study. This is now possible for the first time in the history of UFO research as a result of an unprecedented convergence of high resolution digital camera technologies, off-the shelf scientific instrumentation, powerful low-cost computing platforms, and ubiquitous high-speed internet access.  Check out:

Then guest, Dr. Michael Shermer

michael-shermerMichael Shermer, as head of one of America’s leading skeptic organizations, and as a powerful activist and essayist in the service of this operational form of reason, is an important figure in American public life.

— Stephen Jay Gould

Dr. Michael Shermer is the Founding Publisher of Skeptic magazine, a monthly columnist for Scientific American, a regular contributor to, and Presidential Fellow at Chapman University. Read More>>

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152. Leslie Kean & Jose Lay

urlAlejandro Rojas with the news, and journalist & author Leslie Kean and Chilean International Affairs Director of CEFAA (on UFOs) Jose Lay joins us to speak about a recent story published of a Chilean encounter taken seriously. Support the show to hear more in hour two.

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125. Chris Lambright

chris keanAlejandro Rojas chats about UFO News, we are joined by Leslie Kean on the recent American University UFO Discussion Panel, and guest Chris Lambright fills in for AJ Gevaerd at the last minute and shares his insight, on UFOlogy, old as well as new cases, evidence and more. If you want to listen to the second hour of this show and upcoming, please subscribe.

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106. Chilean UFO & Nick Redfern

Bigfoot LivesA great show, Investigative Journalist, Leslie Kean & Chilean Official, Jose Lay join us to talk about the groundbreaking stand on Chile’s UFO images, and an extended show with Nick Redfern speaking about his new book, Close Encounters of the Fatal Kind


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46. Leslie Kean

Leslie Kean Show Notes: UFO News Round-Up, followed by an interview with Leslie Kean who talks about a unique upcoming symposium (click here for details) and much more. Check out:

Episode 18. Leslie Kean

Show Notes: Leslie Kean, journalist and author of UFOs,Generals, Pilots and Government Officials Go On Record.

Listen in to hear how her book has changed the views of some skeptics as well as what is new and on the horizon since the book was released. 

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Leslie Kean Show Notes, Episode 18.

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Martin: Hi, everyone, I have, author of UFOs: Generals, Pilots, And Government Officials Go On The Record, Leslie Kean on Skype. Hi you doing, Leslie?


Leslie Kean: Doing well, Martin, how are you? Thanks for having me on.


Martin: Uh, I’m thrilled that you’re on, and, you call yourself a UFO agnostic. I like that, and, it gives you a great sense of integrity while you’re doing your researching and writing. Can you tell the listener, who may not know your story, how, as a journalist, you got involved in the UFO phenomena.


Leslie Kean: Sure, uh, ’cause I never expected to get involved. So, um, what happened was back in 1999 I was working at a public radio station in the San Francisco Bay Area producing and co-hosting a daily investigative news program, there, and a colleague in France sent me this extraordinary report written by high-level military people in that country and it was – a, a, a – an English translation of this ninety-page study that was eventually going to be released in the States, but he gave me, kind of, an advanced copy of it, and what it was a three-year study performed by – among the group were four generals, an admiral, the former head of the National Space Studies Center in France, which is the equivalent of NASA in this country, some scientists, some engineers, these very, very sophisticated, knowledgeable, and high-level people had, had focused on this issue for a number of years and they issued a report because they were concerned about the national security implications, the defense implications, of these things that were being seen by pilots and aviation people around the world and they studied only the mo – the official cases that they -  and the most official and the best cases – the cases for which we have so much evidence that you really can’t find an – a conventional explanation for anything, so – at least for the cases they studied. So, I received this report and I was s – just very, very struck by, the conclusion – not only the cases presented, but the conclusions of these high-level people, which was that, uh, the phenomenon, in the cases they studied – which, again, are the cases with the best evidence, officially investigated – the phenomenon in – the best explanation that they could come up with, for those cases, was what they called the Extraterrestrial Hypothesis, and they said this was the most valid, the most likely explanation for these objects that were being seen and I thought, as a journalist, then, just, sort of, looking for a good story – I thought when you have generals and admirals saying that it’s very likely that we are being visited by extraterrestrial craft, of some sort – I thought this was a big news story. I mean, imagine if the equivalent officials in America came out with a statement like that – it would be a huge thing. So I was very struck by the power of their conclusion and the writing in this report was also very, very strong and powerful and interesting, and that’s what got me started – I, I wanted to look into it based on their conclusions and I wrote a story for the Boston Globe based on this French report, which is known as the COMETA report, and that story came out in the spring of 2000, and that’s how I got started and ever since then I’ve been, pretty much, primarily focused on this.

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