In this episode, guest Philip Kinsella delves into the mystery of the Greys. Who are they, why are they here, and what are their true intentions? Despite decades of UFO research and alien abduction reports, we are still no closer to understanding this elusive force that seems to operate beyond our reality, lurking like shadows in the night. As an author and UFO researcher, Philip takes a deep dive into the phenomenon, exploring strange occurrences around the world. He also discusses his personal encounters as well as his twin brothers’ and the possibilities of this being an interdimensional phenomena.
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1973 was a great year for fans of high-strangeness UFO reports. The most famous of these is the October 11
Special guest Dan Carlson shares his two childhood UFO sightings and his role in investigating the 2019-2020 UAP/drone flap in NE Colorado and western Nebraska, featured globally by the Associated Press. Dan discusses why his interest in UAP has been rekindled and the role of faith in exploring these phenomena. We discuss ideas of what the visitors may be and religious beliefs, the bible and more.
In the annals of UFOlogy, there are many cases that, like zombies, refuse to stay buried even in the midst of convincing arguments and evidence debunking them. The case of the reported crash of an airship and recovery of its unearthly pilot in Aurora, Texas, in 1897 is a prime example of this. 
The reported sighting on February 4, 1977, of a UFO and creature by students at the Broad Haven Primary School in Pembrokeshire, Wales, was the beginning of a flap throughout the county. The area where reports were most concentrated has been dubbed “The Broad Haven Tringle.” Multiple witnesses were willing to go on record, including with the Ministry of Defense, saying they had seen not only strange craft, but silver-suited creatures as well. One dramatic encounter was recalled by a witness for Episode 3 of the 2023 series, Encounters, produced for Netflix by Steven Spielberg’s company. While this is many years later, the story told by the witness is the same as that told by the witness to an investigator who spoke to her and her mother closer to the event just months later. 
In last week’s 
Last Week, we wrote about a case that Betty Hill looked into and came upon another case she was involved with that intrigued us to the point that we were moved to explore it in detail. Most significantly, it involves reported encounters with Men in Black, one from a witness/experiencer (actually a Man in Dark Blue), and the other from the doctor who worked with him to recover memories using regressive hypnosis. 
Betty and Barney Hill came to the world’s attention when the report that they were abducted in 1961 by occupants of a UFO was taken seriously in the mainstream press. What is not widely known is that Betty turned to UFO investigation after this, and when Barney died in 1969, she became more deeply involved and travelled from conference to conference giving lectures on the subject. Betty’s niece, Kathleen Marden, co-authored the 2007 book with Stanton T. Friedman, Captured!, about her aunt’s and uncle’s experience. In Chapter 25 titled, “Fall From Grace,” Betty’s “commitment to solve the UFO mystery” is described. According to the authors, Betty received cautions and criticisms from members of the UFO community who were concerned that her subjective approach and intense belief were causing her to become the subject of media attention for all the wrong reasons and putting her credibility at risk. Even so, she is credited with participation in cases that have become part of the literature, and this week, we’ll look at one of those. 
As most people who have an interest in the subject of flying saucers/UFOs are aware, the United States Air Force had an official investigation program looking into the phenomenon for over 20 years, starting in 1948, that continued until its termination in 1969. What many might not be aware of is that England also had an early official interest in the subject, and the Ministry of Defense put together an investigation team in 1950 called “The Flying Saucer Working Party.” It lasted less than a year and was disbanded after the group issued a report recommending against further investigation. Continued sighting reports and interest among influential people caused the MoD to reconsider, and in 1952, two divisions of the Air Ministry were tasked with investigating.