Simulcast on YouTube|Facebook | TWITTER – Sunday, April 06, 2025 @ 7:00 PM EDT (-4GMT)
Jason Sands, a new voice in the UFO disclosure movement, recently shocked the community by revealing alleged involvement in a somewhat similar Secret “20 and Back” Space Program — a claim that has reignited fierce debate, especially in the aftermath of Corey Goode’s legal admission that his similar story was fabricated.
Darcy Weir, known for his investigative documentaries on UFO phenomena, has publicly questioned the authenticity of Sands’ claims, citing the need for evidence and discernment. In this episode, Martin gives both guests a fair platform to express their views, challenge each other, and respond to the growing questions from the public and within the UFO community.
🔍 What really happened to Jason Sands?
🎥 Why does Darcy Weir believe the story doesn’t add up?
🛸 Is the “20 and Back” narrative part of a broader disinformation campaign, or a truth we’re not ready to face?
This is more than an interview — it’s a clash of perspectives that could shape the next chapter of UFO disclosure.
JASON SANDS, a Retired Master Sergeant of the U.S. Air Force turned “UFO whistleblower.” For over two decades, Sands served his country, rising through the ranks to work on some of the most secretive projects imaginable—until his career took him deep into the shadows of the Nevada Test Site. There, within the confines of a Black Special Access Program, he claims to have encountered the unthinkable: non-human craft and biologics, evidence of intelligence beyond our world.
DARCY WEIR, is a documentary filmmaker who over the past two decades has chosen to explore some of the most intriguing topics of discussion today, including UFOs, Cryptids, and even Bitcoin. He has completed over 15 feature-length documentaries on these topics, all of which are available on Amazon Prime and Apple. His goal is to make the world of UFOs more accessible to the general public by shedding light on the subject in new ways.
Simulcast on KGRA Digital Broadcasting, YouTube, Facebook, Rumble & Twitch – Tuesday, April 01, 2025 @ 7:00 PM EDT (-4GMT)
BIO: Ted is an emeritus professor at the Graduate Theological Union, where he co-edits the journal, Theology and Science, on behalf of the Center for Theology and the Natural Sciences, in Berkeley, California, USA. Along with Martinez Hewlett, Joshua Moritz, and Robert John Russell, he co-edited, Astrotheology: Science and Theology Meet Extraterrestrial Intelligence (2018). Along with Octavio Chon Torres, Joseph Seckbach, and Russell Gordon, he co-edited, Astrobiology: Science, Ethics, and Public Policy (Scrivener 2021). In the field of Ufology, Ted served one stint as Louisiana State Investigator for MUFON. Currently he holds active membership in the Society for UAP Studies and the Scientific Coalition for UAP Studies. He is author of UFOs: God’s Chariots? Spirituality, Ancient Aliens, and Religious Yearnings in the Age of Extraterrestrials (Career Press New Page Books, 2014).
Simulcast on KGRA Digital Broadcasting, YouTube, Facebook, Rumble & Twitch – Tuesday, March 25, 2025 @ 7:00 PM EDT (-4GMT)
Topics Discussed:
Corrections in the first release of “TRINITY: The Best-Kept Secret”
Deep dive into “Forbidden Science 6: Scattered Castles”
Independent field research in Brazil, Argentina, Europe, and Russia
How Silicon Valley innovation influences Vallée’s UFO research
Historical UAP crash retrieval cases
The U.S. Government’s evolving stance on UAP transparency
If you’re intrigued by cutting-edge UFOlogy, the potential intersections of science and new technology, and the historical threads of UAP phenomena, you won’t want to miss this conversation.
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BIO: Born in France in a family with long international traditions, Jacques studied mathematics at the Sorbonne, earned a Master’s degree in astrophysics at the University of Lille and was recruited to the first French team that tracked early artificial satellites at Paris Observatory. Moving to the U.S. in 1962, he pursued his passion for science working on NASA projects at the University of Texas in Austin (notably, coding the first computer-based map of Mars) before joining Northwestern University where he completed his PhD in artificial intelligence. Jacques continued his computing and entrepreneurial career at Stanford Research International and the Institute for the Future as one of the Principal Investigators on the early Internet before serving as a founder of a family of venture capital funds in Silicon Valley, specializing in information technology and biotech investments. The funds, including the first NASA venture fund, have financed 60 high-technology startups and led 20 companies (including several “unicorns”) to the public markets. Dr. Vallée remains an active high-tech investor in Silicon Valley while serving on the scientific advisory board of the French Space Agency’s group officially studying UFO reports. He has published his research in books that have been widely translated around the world. He was the real-life model for the character portrayed by François Truffaut in the film, Close Encounters of the Third Kind. Forbidden Science 6: Scattered Castles is available for purchase at Amazon and Barnes&Noble
BIO: John Kiriakou is a journalist, former CIA counterterrorism officer, former senior investigator for the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, and former counterterrorism consultant for ABC News. He was responsible for the capture in Pakistan in 2002 of Abu Zubaydah, then believed to be the third-ranking official in al-Qaeda. In 2007, Kiriakou blew the whistle on the CIA’s torture program, telling ABC News that the CIA tortured prisoners, that torture was official U.S. government policy, and that the policy had been approved by then-President George W. Bush. He became the sixth whistleblower indicted by the Obama administration under the Espionage Act — a law designed to punish spies. He served 23 months in prison as a result of the revelation.
In 2012, the Ralph Nader family honored Kiriakou with the Joe A. Callaway Award for Civic Courage, an award given to individuals who “advance truth and justice despite the personal risk it creates.” He won the PEN Center USA’s prestigious First Amendment Award in 2015, the first Blueprint International Whistleblowing Prize for Bravery and Integrity in the Public Interest in 2016, and also in 2016 the Sam Adams Award for Integrity in Intelligence, given by retired CIA, FBI, and NSA officers.
His portrait, made of Legos by the famed Chinese artist and activist Ai Weiwei, is in the permanent collection of the Smithsonian University. Another, done by Andres Serrano, is in the collection of London’s Tate Museum. A third is in artist Robert Shetterly’s series Americans Who Tell the Truth, which features notable truth-tellers throughout American history.
Kiriakou is the author of eight books, including The Reluctant Spy: My Secret Life in the CIA’s War on Terror; Doing Time Like a Spy: How the CIA Taught Me to Survive and Thrive in Prison; The Convenient Terrorist: Abu Zubaydah and the Weird Wonderland of America’s Secret Wars; and The CIA Insider’s Guide to the Iran Crisis.
BIO: Dr. John G. Blitch (LTC, USA RET) is a retired cognitive scientist with a current research focus on trauma-induced memory repression and human-robot interaction. As an emerging author and popular public speaker, he endeavors to share his many lessons learned from occasionally hilarious misadventures conducting operational research in naturalistic settings outside the laboratory with military personnel, explorers, entrepreneurs, and emergency response professionals. John’s website: https://www.fearfighter.net
Simulcast on KGRA Digital Broadcasting, YouTube, Facebook, Rumble & Twitch – Tuesday, March 11, 2025 @ 7:00 PM EDT (-4GMT)
BIO: Roger Stankovic is an Australian UFO researcher and experiencer of the UFO phenomenon. He is the National Director for MUFON Australia and New Zealand and a community access member of the Scientific Coalition for UAP studies (USA).
Roger has appeared as a guest on Australian Broadcasting Corporation (ABC) Radio, Mix 94.5 FM radio, and Channel 7’s ‘A Current Affair.’ He has appeared on numerous podcasts and his articles on the UFO phenomenon have been published extensively by the Australian media including 7 News, The Daily Telegraph, and the Saturday Telegraph. He was also recently featured in a six-part documentary series “Close Encounters Down Under.”
Graduating with a Bachelor of Science degree, Roger later completed a Doctorate in the Faculty of Medicine at the University of Sydney. As a former neuroscientist, Roger was employed in the Department of Pathology at the University of Sydney. In this capacity, he had published several scientific research papers in this field.
He is currently a lecturer at the Technical & Further Education (TAFE) institute in Sydney and has a keen interest in astronomy and cosmology and is a semi-professional musician.
BIO: Irene Previn is an Australian visual artist and designer, and keen on uncovering the mystery behind UFOs.
About five years ago, after moving from her home town to work on a new project in Melbourne, Irene heard about Westall incident from her workmates. This occurred in the neighbourhood of her new workplace. At that time, she had never heard of it, let alone of a UFO sighting with over 200 witnesses, so her curiosity was piqued. She then took some of her workmates with her to have a look at the place where it happened.
She was allowed in to Shane Ryan’s private Westall Facebook group and learned more about the incident by watching Rosie Jones’s documentary, Westall 66: A Suburban UFO Mystery.
Surprised to see that no-one was organising any kind of celebration or acknowledgement marking the 50th anniversary of the event, Irene organised one herself. She posted a public invitation to join a picnic at The Grange Reserve, where the saucer was seen hovering close to the ground.
To her surprise, people turned up, even including some of the witnesses who willingly shared details of the experiences. Following the event, James Rigney contacted her requesting a meeting. She did not know him from a bar of soap, and was concerned that he might be a weirdo UFO guy. Prior to hearing about the Westall incident, her idea of anyone that took the sighting of flying discs seriously was, that they needed urgent medical attention.
Over coffee, James convinced Irene that he was perfectly sane, in fact he’s quite a nice architect and family man. Irene shared her vision to invite the public to a screening of Rosie’s film, followed by a Q&A panel with the witnesses. James organised the support of a local UFO investigation group to provide funds and helping hands to help make the event happen.
The event was a success, they sold all of the tickets two week before the event! James and Irene worked together to bring James Fox over to visit and film the Westall bits for his film, The Phenomenon.
Through this Irene met her new boss, a mad scientist who works in robotics. She now works as part of a team doing 3d modelling for prototypes and mechanical drafting for fabrication. She also creates collages in her spare time for her online visual art gallery. Luckily for Irene, her boss is equally keen in pursuing the UFO question.
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Simulcast on KGRA Digital Broadcasting, YouTube, Facebook, Rumble & Twitch – Tuesday, March 4, 2025 @ 7:00 PM EDT (-4GMT)
BIO: William Carter was born in Athens, Georgia, on January 24, 1974. In 1994, he joined the Marine Corps and attended boot camp on Parris Island, South Carolina. After boot camp, he proceeded to Marine Combat Training (MCT) at Camp Geiger in Jacksonville, North Carolina. Upon completing MCT, he was transferred a few miles down the road to Camp Johnson, also in Jacksonville, North Carolina, for Food Service School. Once he completed Food Service School, he was reassigned to Parris Island as permanent personnel. While stationed there, he attended Range Coaching School to train new recruits in the use of the M16-A2 service rifle. He remained there for the rest of his enlistment until receiving an honorable discharge in 1998.
Upon being placed on terminal leave, he enrolled in Northeast Alabama Community College in Rainsville, Alabama, in 1998. Pursuing a general studies program, he earned an Associate in Science degree in 2000. Following graduation, he transferred to the University of Alabama in Tuscaloosa, Alabama, where he studied for a year.
From 2003 to 2006, he enlisted in the Alabama National Guard and soon after enrolled at Jacksonville State University in Jacksonville, Alabama. While a senior at Jacksonville State, his National Guard unit was activated for Operation Enduring Freedom. The unit was sent to Fort Leonard Wood, Missouri, for military police school, and after graduation, they were deployed to Germany. There, they performed garrison security and assisted in transporting suspected terrorists from Afghanistan to Guantanamo Bay, Cuba. Like many service members during the war, he was subject to stop-loss orders. Upon returning home, his enlistment ended, but he had still not completed college.
After re-enlisting in the military for a third time from 2009 to 2012, in 2011, he completed a Bachelor of Science in Criminal Justice with a minor in Psychology from Troy University.
However, in 2009, during a deployment with his military police unit to Eglin Air Force Base in Fort Walton, Florida, his past resurfaced in a way that profoundly affected his life. The unit had been sent to Eglin for two weeks of annual training in preparation for an upcoming deployment. Their official mission included garrison security and marijuana eradication. During this time, he visited a restricted radar facility known as Site C6 at Eglin Air Force Base.
A long-forgotten memory resurfaced during this visit. As a child in the late 1970s, he, along with his mother and sister, had witnessed a UFO on the ground in a field near their home in Georgia. Until his time at Eglin, this memory had been buried. The experience at the base led him to realize that not only were extraterrestrial encounters real, but that the government actively monitored them.
Simulcast on KGRA Digital Broadcasting, YouTube, Facebook, Rumble & Twitch – Tuesday, February 18, 2025 @ 7:00 PM EDT (-4GMT)
🔍 Are these objects extraterrestrial? 🛰️ How does satellite imagery contribute to UAP investigations? ⚠️ What’s the government’s stance on disclosure?
Bio: Sarah Gamm’s education is a B.S is in Astrophysics and M.S. is in Countering Weapons of Mass Destruction. Most of her career has been in the Intelligence Community focused on satellite imagery analysis and as an image scientist. She has worked at ODNI-National Counterproliferation and Biosecurity Center where she was a nuclear counterproliferation strategist and led a new campaign initiative and briefed senior leaders in the US government. While Sarah worked with the United States Army Corp of Engineers (USACE) on the Mosul Dam Task Force, years of imagery collection led to a co-authored published paper that provided precise ground truth data blended with satellite imagery to remotely monitor dams. Sarah recently supported the Air Force as a Nuclear Campaign Analyst in the Pentagon, and now works for USACE as a scientist in the Army’s Tactical Exploitation of National Capabilities (TENCAP) office. She was an analyst for the UAP Task Force.
BIO: Robert Powell is a founding Board member of the Scientific Coalition for UAP Studies (SCU), a 300-member organization with the mission of bringing science to the investigation of UFOs. He was the Director of Research at MUFON from 2007-2017 and created MUFON’s Science Review Board in 2012. Robert is one of two authors of the detailed radar/witness report on the “Stephenville Lights” as well as the SCU report “UAP: 2013 Aguadilla, Puerto Rico”. He is also the primary author on the recently published paper, “A Forensic Analysis of Navy Carrier Strike Group Eleven’s Encounter with an Anomalous Aerial Vehicle” and a secondary author of a paper published in the journal Entropy entitled, “Estimating Flight Characteristics of Anomalous Unidentified Aerial Vehicles.” Robert is a member of the Society for Scientific Exploration, the UFODATA project, and the National Space Society. Robert has just released a new book in April 2024: UFOs: A Scientist Explains What We Know (And Don’t Know). He is also a co-author of a book published in July 2012: UFOs and Government: A Historical Inquiry and is an author of a book designed for children published in Nov. 2020 entitled, The Truth About UFOs: A Scientific Perspective. Robert has a BS in Chemistry and is a former collegiate debater. He has 28 years of experience in engineering management in the semiconductor industry. He helped Advanced Micro Devices develop its first flash memory technology that is used in today’s flash cards for cameras, PCs, video cameras, and other products. His experience includes managing a state-of-the-art chemistry laboratory and managing a Research and Development group that worked on nanotechnology using atomic force microscopes, near-field optical microscopy, and other techniques. Robert is also a co-holder of four patents related to nanotechnology. Robert currently resides in Austin, Texas.
BIO: Dave Falch was born in St. Louis, Missouri. He obtained a B.A. in English in 1995, joined the U.S. Navy in 1996 and was trained as an Aviation Electronics Technician (AT). While in the Navy, Dave trained on SLAM-ER pods, Magnetic Anomaly Detection systems, Com/Nav and Anti-Submarine Warfare equipment, and a variety of avionics from different aircraft. After a tour in the Navy, Dave decided to rejoin the civilian workforce and worked a few jobs servicing aviation electronics and surgical equipment. Dave earned an A.S. in Industrial Management in 2006, along with starting a career in FLIR technology the same year. From 2006 to the current date, Dave has worked on a wide variety of FLIR systems, airborne radio systems, airborne news cameras, and associated wiring/equipment. He has been factory trained by FLIR manufacturers numerous times over many different systems and is familiar with hardware upgrades and software updates. Dave has worked with engineers at the factory level to implement new prototypes to interface the aircraft with FLIR systems. After test and evaluation, these prototypes have become approved tools and remain in the field today as operational systems. Dave works at the “depot level” of repair, which essentially means he thoroughly understands the operation of the system at hand, and he can break them down to nuts and bolts and rebuild them as needed. Dave has weighed in on many UFO/UAP topics regarding the analyzed FLIR video footage. Some of these include “Gimbal,” “Aguadilla,” “Bristol Channel,” “Jellyfish,” “A-10,” “La Bruja,” “Rubber Duck,” “Chilean,” “Omaha,” and others. He often will try to duplicate/simulate prosaic explanations and post his findings on YouTube under his name. Dave has been featured on the History Channel’s show The Proof Is Out There. Dave is a contributor to the Scientific Coalition of UAP Studies.
BIO: Robert Salas is a 1964 graduate of the U.S. Air Force Academy. He served seven years on active duty. He worked as a weapons controller, flew target drones, commanded intercontinental ballistic missiles as a launch officer, and a worked as an Air Force missile propulsion engineer on the Titan III program. From 1971–73 he worked as a safety and reliability engineer for Martin-Marietta Aerospace and Rockwell International on Space Shuttle design proposals. From 1974 until his retirement in 1995 he worked for the Federal Aviation Administration. In 2005 he published the book Faded Giant with coauthor James Klotz which details the UFO incident he witnessed in 1967. Mr. Salas has been publicly speaking about this incident at UFO conferences, on radio, and on television since 1996.
Simulcast on KGRA Digital Broadcasting, YouTube, Facebook, Twitter & Rumble | Tuesday, January 28, 2025 @ 7:00 PM EDT (-5GMT)
BIO: Rebecca Charbonneau is a historian at the American Institute of Physics, as well as an affiliate of the National Radio Astronomy Observatory and the St. Andrews SETI Post-Detection Hub. She holds an MSc in the history of science, medicine, and technology from the University of Oxford and a PhD in the history and philosophy of science from the University of Cambridge. Rebecca lives in the Washington, D.C. metropolitan area with her husband, Jim, and their cat, Sputnik. 🔭 Order Rebecca Charbonneau’s book, Mixed Signals.
Simulcast on KGRA Digital Broadcasting, YouTube, Facebook, Twitter & Rumble | Tuesday, January 21, 2025 @ 7:00 PM EDT (-5GMT)
BIO: Luis “Lue” Elizondo is the former head of the Advanced Aerospace Threat Identification Program (AATIP), the Pentagon unit that researched UFOs, now known as Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena (UAP). Prior to AATIP, Elizondo oversaw counterespionage and counterterrorism investigations worldwide for the Department of Defense, and also worked for the Office of the National Counterintelligence Executive and the Office of the Director of National Intelligence. Elizondo is a proud Army veteran, and later served his country throughout the world including South Korea, Latin America, the Caribbean, Afghanistan, and other countries throughout the Middle East. Elizondo is a graduate of the University of Miami, where he studied microbiology and immunology.
BIO: Kevin Wright has 20+ years of experience in public relations, communications, and issue advocacy in Washington, DC. He founded Solve Advocacy, an issue advocacy and communications consulting firm dedicated to UAP and edge science issues. He advises the Scientific Coalition for UAP Studies’ (SCU) Board of Directors on public affairs and public relations.
BIO: Martin Willis, has harbored a fascination with the subject of UFOs since his formative years. Initially wavering in his beliefs, his encounter with a UFO in Carmel Valley, CA, in 2007 served as an epiphany, solidifying his conviction in the existence of Unidentifiable Flying Objects. Since that transformative moment, Martin has attentively followed discussions surrounding the phenomenon, maintaining a stance of cautious skepticism tempered by an ever-open mind. With a firm belief that the truth behind UFOs/UAPs may forever elude us, including the enigmatic stance of governments such as the US, Martin regards the exploration of this mystery as one of paramount importance and unparalleled excitement. His interest in astronomy underscores his conviction that humanity is not alone in the universe, fueling a steadfast scientific curiosity regarding the vast cosmos. As a passionate advocate for the UFO community, Martin founded the acclaimed Podcast UFO in November 2011, conducting over 600 illuminating interviews on the subject (2024). His expertise and dedication have led to prestigious speaking engagements, including serving as the keynote speaker at the Pine Bush UFO Conference in 2022 and as a speaker at the Shag Harbour UFO Expo in in Nova Scotia, 2023. In 2024, he spoke at the Skywatchers Amateur Astronomers Club in South Carolina, had the role of Master of Ceremonies for the Annual MUFON International Symposium in Texas as well as the Shag Harbour UFO Expo in Nova Scotia (2024 & slated for 2025), further cementing his standing within the UFO community.
Simulcast on YouTube, Facebook, Twitter & Rumble | Tuesday, January 17, 2025 @ 7:00 PM EDT (-5GMT)
Ryan Graves is known as the first active-duty military pilot to come forward about regular UFO sightings, paving the way for greater transparency and exploration of this fascinating subject.
RYAN GRAVES
Former Lt. U.S. Navy and F/A-18F Pilot
First active-duty pilot to come forward publicly about regular sightings of UAPs
Ryan Graves is a former Lt. U.S. Navy and F/A-18F pilot who deployed twice in
support of Operation Enduring Freedom and Operation Inherent Resolve. Graves
was the first active duty pilot to come forward publicly about regular sightings of
UAP and has been featured in “60 Minutes,” The New York Times, and The Joe
Rogan Experience.
Graves serves as co-founder and Executive Director of Americans for Safe
Aerospace (ASA), a military pilot led nonprofit dedicated to aerospace safety and
national security with focus on UAP.
Graves volunteers as the first Chair of the AIAA UAP Integration and Outreach
Committee (UAPIOC). The UAPIOC serves as a neutral, scientifically focused group
enabling greater aerospace safety.
