Simulcast on KGRA Digital Broadcasting, YouTube, Facebook, & Rumble | Tuesday, July 23, 2024 @ 7:00 PM EDT (-4GMT)
Martin’s interview: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PVCEES64PaE
Broad Haven UFO Encounter: https://www.bbc.com/news/uk-wales-south-west-wales-38723643
Ariel Phenomenon: https://arielphenomenon.com/
The Elephant in the Room YouTube Channel:
BIO: Krys Devine is a content creator, aspiring artist, author, public speaker, shapeshifter (reinvents herself as needed), dreamer – both figuratively and literally – and UFO Experiencer and Enthusiast. She is married to her soulmate of 32 years and has four amazing adult children, each with four beautiful partners. Having medically retired from a 33-year career in healthcare encompassing multiple front-line and leadership roles, she is a non-combat disabled veteran whose service began in the United States Navy as a Hospital Corpsman. Krys is currently pursuing her graduate degree in consciousness and transformative studies from the JFK School of Psychology at National University, having completed her bachelor’s degree in organizational leadership in 2012. A highlight of Krys’s UAP advocacy was her attendance at the inaugural UAP Congressional Hearing in July of 2023. Her brief curiosity about UAP in the summer of 2021 quickly transformed into a series of sightings of anomalies and various phenomena that she captured on film over two years while residing in San Diego. These experiences prompted a deep dive into the nature of the phenomenon, as well as involvement in the #ufotwitter community, fostering friendships and relationships with other experiencers. These ongoing ontological questions have spurred her to further explore the topic. As the co-host of the Elephant in the Room podcast on YouTube alongside her co-host, Ariel, Krys approaches the podcast as a student, refraining from claiming to have definitive answers. Instead, she shares her experiences and personal interpretations while learning from the diverse guests – experiencers, researchers, and thinkers – in the field, driven by a never-ending curiosity and a pursuit of more questions.
BIO: Ariel is a mother, writer, content creator, and former teacher. Her journey has been a multifaceted one, shaped by her diverse interests and experiences. With a bachelor’s degree in elementary education and Biblical studies, along with an endorsement in English as a second language, Ariel initially embarked upon a teaching career. After teaching for a short amount of time, Ariel got married, started a family, and transitioned into the role of a devoted stay-at-home mother to her two precious girls. However, her passion for teaching and learning never waned and over the years she has consistently found various ways to continue improving her writing skills and working with children in an educational setting. Ariel has been captivated by the enigma known as the UFO phenomenon for quite some time now. Her grandfather had an experience with a hovering metallic disk when he was a teenager, and he passed his curiosity about the unknown onto her. In 2020 she officially dove head first into the topic and has since become a beloved member of the UFO Twitter community after she garnered much attention when in 2022 Lue Elizondo shared an article she wrote. These days she is particularly interested in researching and understanding how world religions and society at large might react to and cope with the disclosure of the existence of non-human intelligence.
After the termination of Project Blue Book was announced on December 17, 1969, throughout the early months of 1970, much was made in the press of the fact that the Air Force was no longer in the flying saucer/UFO game. Then, the existence of a physics textbook being used at the Air Force Academy that had an entire 
In the midst of the excitement created by the publication in 1980 of The Roswell Incident by Charles Berlitz and William Moore, a set of documents reportedly came into Moore’s possession that seemed to support the story of a flying saucer recovery near Roswell and a secret government body, Majestic 12, that handled such things. These became known to UFO researchers and later, the general public. They consist of eight pages, seven of which are seemingly a briefing document for President Eisenhower, and an additional page, which is a letter dated September 24, 1947, from President Harry Truman to Secretary of Defense James Forrestal authorizing the creation of Majestic 12. The subject of the briefing document is “Operation Majestic Twelve,” and the collection of pages is often referred to as “The MJ-12 Documents.” Naturally, UFO researchers considered the possibility that the documents had been forged. Barry Greenwood and Brad Sparks came to the conclusion that they had, as did the FBI, which has made copies available on their 
RON JAMES is is a filmmaker, on-camera personality, writer, editor, researcher, content creator and entrepreneur. He is also the Director of Media Relations for MUFON. James is the co-founder of MUFON Television, an online TV channel boasting the world’s largest collection of commercial-free UAP related material.
BOB SPEARING graduated from Fordham University with a B.A. in Communications with Journalism, Advertising, Public Opinion, Propaganda, and Film Production as major concentrations. Bob recently retired from the Port Authority of New York & New Jersey after 34 years. His many duties included being an FRA licensed Rail Traffic Controller and Locomotive Engineer. While in management, he was a Safety Investigator, Contract Administrator, prepared multi-million-dollar budgets, managed logistics for public relations such as concerts and cultural festivals, and curated historical railroad exhibitions at a major regional transportation hub. Bob joined MUFON in 2014 as a Field Investigator and is currently Director of International Investigations. Bob has long been involved with MUFON’s various special projects including the MARRS historical reports archiving project, the Pine Bush, N.Y. UFO Museum, the MUFON Observer Network as well as the recently released MUFON UFO Map App available on the Google Play Store and the Apple iStore. He has had numerous articles published in various UFO related magazines around the world in several languages including three MUFON Journal cover stories. He has appeared in the Travel Channel television series “UFOs: The Lost Evidence” as a photo analyst and in a recent Ancient Aliens episode about MUFON in February 2023. He also writes articles for the MUFON Newsletter and MUFON.COM. and speaks at U.S. conventions. Bob lives in eastern Pennsylvania’s Pocono Mountains with his wife and twin boys.
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In this episode, I’m joined by true crime podcaster, Kate from Nightmare Houses as she discusses her podcast episodes that include homes that one should feel safe in, but sometimes terrible things happen, from hauntings, to all kinds of twisted crimes, murders and mysteries. In particular, we delve into the 
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