SHOW 785 NOTES: UK Police Inspector Roy Teague

Simulcast on YouTube, Facebook & Twitter | Tuesday, September 22, 2026 @ 8:00 PM EDT (GMT-4)

What happens when the people trained to investigate the unexplained become the witnesses? Serving UK Police Inspector Roy Teague joins host Martin Willis to discuss UFO encounters reported by serving and retired police officers—including accounts involving missing time and alleged abduction experiences. A British Army veteran with more than 26 years in policing, Roy’s background includes armed response, tactical firearms command and protection duties for members of the Royal Family and Parliament. His investigations into UFOs and paranormal events have led him to interview more than 250 serving and retired officers, many sharing experiences they had previously kept private.His book, Close Encounters of the Police Kind, brings together previously unheard accounts from UK police witnesses. We’ll explore what officers reported, why some were reluctant to speak, and how Roy approaches extraordinary claims with an investigator’s attention to evidence.How are UFO incidents perceived, reported and investigated within UK policing? What can an officer’s training bring to an account—and what questions remain unanswered?

BOOK: Close Encounters of the Police Kind
YOUTUBE CHANNEL: Policing the Unexplained
CONTACT: contact@policingtheunexplained.com

Insp Roy Teague Bio
Inspector Roy Teague served six years in the British Army, completing operational tours in both Northern Ireland and Bosnia before embarking on a distinguished policing career spanning more than twenty-six years across two police forces. Throughout his career, Roy has led a frontline existence working on emergency response, proactive teams and the elite Firearms Operations Unit of West Midlands Police as an Authorised Firearms Officer and both an operational and Tactical Firearms Commander, where calm judgement and decisive action are demanded in the most dangerous of circumstances. Many of these operations have led to the arrest of some of the country’s most dangerous armed criminals. He has also led protection details for some of the country’s most important figures including members of the Royal Family and Parliament. He has been awarded numerous commendations for bravery including one from a Chief Constable and another from a High Court Judge at the Old Bailey in his own attempted murder trial. His career has been built on evidence, discipline and an unwavering pursuit of the truth. Yet it is another skill that has taken him into territory few police officers have ever explored. A world just beyond our own – a place where mankind has no jurisdiction – where reality rides a razor thin seam between fact and impossibility – the world of UFOs, and the paranormal. In the perplexing field of unexplained studies, where hard evidence is often elusive, credibility remains the cornerstone of serious investigation. Roy’s reputation for professionalism and discretion enabled him to earn the trust of those trained to observe, question and report facts. That reputation opened the door to one of the most remarkable investigations of his career: interviewing more than 250 serving and retired police officers about their own encounters with unexplained aerial phenomena and paranormal events. Officers with nothing to gain and everything to lose finally broke their silence describing extraordinary close encounters involving missing time and alleged abduction experiences. The officers spoke because one of their own was asking the questions —and because they knew they would be treated with professionalism, respect and without ridicule. That research culminated in the publication of Close Encounters of the Police Kind, a unique investigation unlike any before it: law enforcement interviewing law enforcement about a phenomenon that has remained hidden behind the badge for decades. Blending the rigour of criminal investigation with first-hand testimony from experienced police officers, Roy offers readers a rare glimpse into a world where the unexplained collides with those sworn to uphold the law.

784. Kevin Estrella

Guitarist Kevin Estrella joins Martin Willis to recount a 2014 UFO sighting over Hamilton, Ontario, and the ongoing encounters he believes have influenced his music as Pyramids on Mars. Kevin describes “musical downloads,” invisible visitors, and a melody he believes translates to “Do you hear me?” Martin asks about evidence and the purpose of these reported encounters, while audience questions explore telepathy, first-contact predictions, and humanity’s readiness for contact.

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783. Longtime UFO researcher Norio Hayakawa

Longtime UFO researcher Norio Hayakawa joins Martin Willis to explore whether UFO encounters could involve something other than physical extraterrestrial spacecraft. From his father’s reported 1947 sighting in Japan to the Socorro encounter and the mysteries of Dulce, Norio shares the experiences and research behind his unconventional perspective. Topics include his “paraphysical” theory, government secrecy and disclosure, the Farmington sightings, Fátima, Project Gasbuggy, and cattle mutilations. Martin offers questions and pushback throughout a conversation that examines the distinction between witness reports, personal beliefs, and verifiable evidence.

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Show 784 Notes: Kevin Estrella

Simulcast on YouTube, Facebook & Twitter | Thursday, September 17, 2026 @ 8:00 PM EDT (GMT-4)

Could a UFO encounter change the way someone creates music? Guitarist and experiencer Kevin Estrella joins Martin Willis to explore his reported encounters, telepathic experiences, and the mysterious inspiration behind his instrumental rock project, Pyramids on Mars. Kevin traces a turning point to August 21, 2014, when he says he encountered a craft he believed was of otherworldly origin. He describes subsequent experiences involving vivid dreams, symbols, synchronicities, and “musical downloads,” melodies and ideas he attributes to nonhuman intelligence. His album Cosmic Angels draws inspiration from these reported visitations, blending hard rock and metal with influences from Bach and Vivaldi. Kevin also explores connections he sees between music, telepathic storytelling, and the tonal communication of whales.

BIO: Kevin Estrella, the Canadian solo guitarist and composer behind Pyramids on Mars. For more than 20 years, Kevin has researched UFOs and extraterrestrial phenomena in an effort to better understand why they are here and what their presence may mean for humanity. His lifelong passion for UFOs, extraterrestrials, and higher consciousness eventually merged with his musical calling, giving rise to the instrumental rock project Pyramids on Mars. Known for a powerful blend of hard rock, industrial, and psychedelic metal, Kevin’s music is also shaped by melodic influences from Baroque composers such as Bach and Vivaldi. His albums include Echo Cosmic and Edge of the Black.

Kevin’s music | UFO radio show | Official First Contact

Show 783 Notes: Norio Hayakawa

Simulcast on YouTube, Facebook & Twitter | Tuesday, September 15, 2026 @ 8:00 PM EDT (GMT-4)

What if UFOs are real, but the extraterrestrial explanation is wrong? Longtime UFO researcher Norio Hayakawa joins Martin Willis on Podcast UFO to explore that question through his decades of interest in Area 51, Dulce, New Mexico, and the broader UFO mystery. Hayakawa began studying the subject in 1961 and questions the evidence behind claims of alien spacecraft and underground alien bases. Background and research interests Our planned discussion explores why he favors a “paraphysical” interpretation, meaning an intelligence that he believes can temporarily appear within our physical world. We will also examine how his Christian beliefs inform his thinking about the phenomenon, deception, and alleged encounters. These are Hayakawa’s personal interpretations, open to discussion and questioning. Hayakawa’s explanation of his views Where does the evidence lead, where does belief enter the picture, and what would it take to change his mind?

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Explore Norio’s writing: Norio Hayakawa’s website: https://noriohayakawa.wordpress.com

BIO: Norio Hayakawa is an Albuquerque, New Mexico, UFO researcher who began studying the subject in 1961. His longtime interests include Area 51 and Dulce. His writing combines skepticism toward alien visitation claims with a personal belief that the phenomenon may have a paraphysical or spiritual origin.

 

Fatima: Miracle of the Sun
Upcoming guests: Tony Woody (10-15), Lue Elizondo (10-06), Allagash Abductees, Charlie Foltz & Jim Weiner (10-13), Jeff Nuccelli (10-20)

A 1976 UFO and Occupant Report From the Canary Islands

by UFO History Buff & Author, Charles Lear 

On June 22, 1976, beginning at 10:15 p.m., offices of emergency responders throughout the Canary Islands were inundated with calls from citizens reporting a huge fireball in the western sky. Officials were able to see it for themselves as it remained visible for several minutes. The incident made international news and became a part of UFO lore with the main focus on a witness who claimed to have seen the cause of the reports yards away, which he described as a transparent sphere with two occupants inside.

We came across this story looking through a collection of clippings from the National Enquirer. It was covered in the August 28, 1976, edition in the article (page 62 of the pdf) by David Klein headlined ‘Transparent UFO Tall as a 3-Story Building.”

According to Klein, three astronomers from the Astrophysical Observatory on Monte Izana “watched in stunned amazement as the ‘giant brilliant sphere with a swirling center’ streaked directly toward their observatory.” One of them, Dr. Fernando Bello, is quoted saying that it paused during its approach and then made a 90-degree turn. According to him, “No flying machine made by man could have executed that maneuver.” Read more →

782. Philip Mantle

British UFO researcher, author and publisher Philip Mantle joins Martin Willis to discuss UFO Reflections and more than four decades of investigation. Topics include Charles Forgus’s claimed Roswell testimony, the Alien Autopsy hoax, the reported 1980 Normanton UFO landing, and new witnesses and recordings connected to the Pascagoula encounter. Philip also reflects on his friendship with Calvin Parker, the importance of preserving forgotten testimony, and the growing challenge of AI-generated UFO misinformation.

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781. Alex Dietrich, We Don’t Know What We Saw

Former U.S. Navy F/A-18 pilot Alex Dietrich joins Martin Willis for a candid conversation about the November 14, 2004, Tic Tac UFO encounter off Southern California. Flying alongside Commander David Fravor, Dietrich witnessed an unidentified white object near an unusual disturbance in the ocean during a routine training mission with the USS Nimitz Carrier Strike Group. Dietrich recounts what she saw, the uncertainty she felt, and what she learned years later about the USS Princeton’s unusual radar contacts before the encounter. She also reflects on the personal challenges of speaking publicly and why acknowledging what we don’t know matters. It’s a thoughtful firsthand account of one of the most widely discussed UFO encounters in modern history.

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Show 782 Notes: Philip Mantle

Simulcast on YouTube, Facebook & Twitter | Thursday, September 10, 2026 @ 8:00 PM EDT (GMT-4)

Longtime British UFO researcher, author and publisher Philip Mantle joins Martin Willis for a fascinating look back at more than four decades of UFO investigation—and the evidence that may still be sitting undiscovered in filing cabinets, attics and forgotten archives. Philip discusses his expansive retrospective, UFO REFLECTIONS, including the remarkable videotaped testimony of former Deputy Sheriff Charles Forgus, who claimed that he witnessed the recovery operation at Roswell in 1947. The conversation also explores: • The infamous Alien Autopsy film and how Philip helped expose the truth behind it • The 1980 Normanton, England, UFO landing reportedly witnessed by a mother and several children • How two of those children, now adults, were found decades later and reaffirmed the account • New witnesses and previously unseen recordings connected to the 1973 Pascagoula encounter • The secretly recorded conversation between Calvin Parker and Charles Hickson • Philip’s friendship with Calvin Parker and his efforts to preserve Calvin’s story • How forgotten film, audio and online comments can uncover important new witnesses • The growing problem of AI-generated UFO stories being presented as authentic evidence Philip Mantle is a former Director of Investigations for the British UFO Research Association and the founder of Flying Disk Press. Throughout his career, he has investigated celebrated cases, exposed major hoaxes and preserved testimony that might otherwise have disappeared. UFO REFLECTIONS and Philip Mantle’s other books: https://www.amazon.com/stores/author/… Flying Disk Press: https://flyingdiskpress.blogspot.com/

BIO: Philip Mantle is a British UFO researcher, internationally published author, and publisher with more than four decades of experience investigating the UFO phenomenon. He formerly served as Director of Investigations for the British UFO Research Association (BUFORA) and as the Mutual UFO Network’s (MUFON) representative for England. A lecturer and broadcaster, Mantle is also the founder of Flying Disk Press, bringing UFO research and accounts from around the world to English-speaking readers.

 

Show 781 Notes: Alex Dietrich

Simulcast on YouTube, Facebook & Twitter | Tuesday, September 08, 2026 @ 8:00 PM EDT (GMT-4)

One of the most important interviews ever presented on Podcast UFO, host Martin Willis sits down with former U.S. Navy F/A-18 pilot Alex Dietrich for a candid discussion of the November 14, 2004 Tic Tac UFO encounter involving the USS Nimitz Carrier Strike Group. Dietrich describes how an otherwise routine training mission suddenly changed when her flight was redirected by the USS Princeton to investigate an unidentified contact. She recalls the disturbance in the ocean, the moment the white Tic Tac-shaped object entered her field of view and the confusion of watching it react to Commander David Fravor’s aircraft. “We weren’t supposed to be there,” Dietrich explains. “What the hell is this thing? Where did it come from? What is it doing? How is it doing that? Is it a threat?” Flying high cover during the encounter, Dietrich found herself fascinated and unnerved. The aircrew were unarmed, the object could not be identified and no one knew what it was capable of doing. Years later, after questioning whether they might have been unknowingly sent into a secret American test, she says she was repeatedly reassured that the object was not a U.S. system, that no submarine was operating in the area and that there was no evidence of American or allied activity responsible for what they witnessed. Dietrich also discusses the troubling absence of an immediate formal investigation. No specialized reporting system, debriefing procedure or UAP investigative infrastructure existed for the aircrews at the time. When she was eventually questioned at the Pentagon years later, details had already begun to fade. The conversation goes far beyond the mechanics of the encounter. Dietrich explains why she does not consider herself a whistleblower, how her identity became public after information from the case appeared online, why she resisted media attention and what finally persuaded her to appear on 60 Minutes. She speaks about the ridicule experienced by military witnesses, the need to examine extraordinary reports without automatically embracing or dismissing them and the importance of treating experiencers with dignity. Her position remains neutral: she does not claim to know what the Tic Tac was, but she believes unexplained objects in controlled military and civilian airspace deserve serious, scientifically responsible investigation. This is the story of the Tic Tac encounter from one of its principal eyewitnesses, told with honesty, humor and extraordinary clarity. ***VIDEO CLIPS PROVIDED BY DAVE BEATY

*** Correction: John Mack was a psychiatrist

BIO: Alex Dietrich is a retired U.S. Navy lieutenant commander who served for 20 years as a naval officer and F/A-18F Super Hornet strike fighter pilot. She completed two combat deployments supporting Operations Iraqi Freedom and Enduring Freedom and later served on the ground in Afghanistan as an infrastructure reconstruction engineer. Her military honors include the Bronze Star and Air Medal.

Dietrich is best known publicly as one of the four naval aviators who witnessed the now-famous Tic Tac UFO during a training mission with the USS Nimitz Carrier Strike Group on November 14, 2004. Flying as Commander David Fravor’s wingwoman, Dietrich maintained high cover while observing the smooth, white, wingless object maneuver above a disturbance in the Pacific Ocean before rapidly departing. She has since briefed officials at the Pentagon and Congress and appeared on 60 Minutes and other major news programs to discuss the encounter.

Following her operational career, Dietrich taught Naval Science at a consortium of Washington, D.C., universities and served as a military professor in Leadership, Ethics and Law at the U.S. Naval Academy. Her academic work has included critical thinking, leadership, ethics, resilience and change management. Despite the attention surrounding the Nimitz encounter, Dietrich remains deliberately neutral about the object’s origin and advocates for careful, evidence-based investigation without stigma or sensationalism.

A 2025 Sighting Investigation Report From the NICAP Website

by UFO History Buff & Author, Charles Lear 

In 1969, just before the December 17th press release that Project Blue Book was being terminated, Donald Keyhoe was removed from his position as director of the National Investigations Committee on Aerial Phenomena. NICAP quickly became a shadow of its former formidable self, but it never fully ceased being active thanks to Fran Ridge, who passed away on January 20th of this year. Ridge maintained the NICAP website, which is still operating as of this writing, and this week, we’ll look at one of the last cases Ridge investigated.

In the 2025 Chronology in the section of the site headed “The Chronos,” there is a file headed “2025-MADAR.htm.” This is the “Project Report: 2025” covering “Potential Sightings of Interest & MADAR Anomalies,” which is a joint effort between NICAP, the National UFO Reporting Center, and MADAR (Multiple Anomaly Detection and Automatic Recording).  MADAR was a project started by Ridge in 1970, and by 2023, there were 221 members operating 168 sites with systems designed to collect and record geomagnetic, electromagnetic, and background radiation anomalies. Read more →

780. Live at Rye NH Library NEW HAMPSHIRE UFOs

Martin Willis interviews Dean Merchant live at the Rye Public Library for a fascinating discussion about UFOs in New Hampshire, including the legendary 1965 Incident at Exeter. The program features firsthand testimony from Mike Geanoulis who describes seeing a massive object with extremely bright red lights over the Exeter area, as well as retired Exeter police officer George Dufour, who served on the force at the time and personally knew officers Gene Bertrand and David Hunt. Dean also explores the Betty and Barney Hill case, Stratham Hill, Pawtuckaway, Raymond, Ossipee, the White Mountains, and other New Hampshire UFO hotspots, along with theories involving nuclear activity, geology, and decades of unexplained sightings across the Granite State.

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779. Rich Hoffman

Veteran UFO researcher Rich Hoffman joins Martin Willis to discuss his remarkable six-decade journey, from investigating sightings near Project Blue Book as a teenager to helping lead the Scientific Coalition for UAP Studies. Rich examines the Tic Tac encounter, reported radar jamming, government transparency, private defense contractors and the limitations of UAP videos without adequate data. They also explore the New Jersey drone wave, AI-generated UFO footage, common misidentifications, near-death experiences and the possibility that science has only begun to understand the true nature of UAP and consciousness.

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Show 779 Notes: Rich Hoffman

Simulcast on YouTube, Facebook & Twitter | Tuesday, September 01, 2026 @ 8:00 PM EDT (GMT-4)

Veteran UFO researcher Rich Hoffman joins Martin Willis to discuss his remarkable six-decade journey investigating UFOs and UAP, from the 1964 Socorro era through MUFON, decades of defense systems work and today’s scientific study of anomalous phenomena. Rich discusses the Scientific Coalition for UAP Studies, what constitutes meaningful UAP evidence, the need for sophisticated sensors and rigorous methodology, government involvement, his presentation at a NATO Space Domain conference, and what researchers have and have not learned after more than 60 years of investigation.

BIO: Rich Hoffman is a retired Senior Systems Engineering Analyst who spent more than 30 years supporting the U.S. Army Materiel Command at Redstone Arsenal in Huntsville, Alabama. With a B.A. in Organizational Communication from Wright State University and a broad professional background in IT, training, organizational development and leadership, he has also devoted nearly six decades to investigating and researching UFOs/UAP, beginning in 1964 around the time of the Lonnie Zamora Socorro incident. Growing up in Dayton, Ohio, Rich joined the Midwest UFO Network, later MUFON, in 1969 and went on to serve in numerous leadership roles, including State Director, Star Team Manager, Deputy Director for Investigations and Director of Strategic Projects; he remains a MUFON Benefactor and Lifetime Member. In 2017, he helped establish the Scientific Coalition for UAP Studies (SCU), where he currently serves as an Executive Board Officer. SCU brings together more than 400 scientists, engineers, former military personnel, academics and business professionals to study UAP using scientific methods and advanced technologies. Rich also serves as a Board Advisor to the Society for UAP Studies (SUAPS), represented the United States at a NATO Space Domain conference in Bologna, Italy, in 2022, and has appeared on numerous television, radio and podcast programs, including as a regular contributor to History Channel’s The Proof Is Out There. He has also coauthored several scientific papers on UAP research, many of which are available through the SCU website.

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Show 780 Notes: LIVE SHOW | Dean Merchant Rye New Hampshire Library

Live Audience Simulcast on YouTube, Facebook & Twitter | Thursday, September 03, 2026 @ 6:30 PM EDT (GMT-4)

Martin Willis interviews Dean Merchant live at the Rye New Hampshire Library, with a live audience, for a fascinating conversation about UFOs in New Hampshire. Dean, co-founder of the Exeter UFO Festival, discusses why the Granite State has long been considered one of the most active UFO regions in America. The conversation explores the legendary 1965 Incident at Exeter, the continuing mystery surrounding sightings in the Exeter/Kensington area, and other notable New Hampshire hotspots including Fremont, Brentwood, Raymond, Nottingham, Pawtuckaway, Ossipee, and the White Mountains. We also get into theories about why these areas may be so active, from geology and rare minerals to reports of USOs and long-standing witness testimony. If you’re interested in New England UFO history, regional hotspots, and the ongoing mystery of unexplained sightings in New Hampshire, this is an episode you won’t want to miss.

Guest: Dean Merchant
Host: Martin Willis
Location: Rye New Hampshire Library

BIO: Dean Merchant is a local historian who serves as a witness in the context of UAP/UFO research. He is featured in the video “Incident at Exeter,” which discusses Norman Muscarello’s 1965 UFO encounter, contributing to the historical narrative surrounding UAP phenomena. His role as a historian adds a contextual layer to the examination of such incidents