Show Notes Ep. 787: Franc S. Milburn

Simulcast on YouTube, Facebook & Twitter | Tuesday, September 29, 2026 @ 8:00 PM EDT (GMT-4)

Did British special forces recover an unexplained craft in northern England? What did RAF aircrews reportedly encounter when ordered to intercept UFOs? Former British military intelligence officer and Parachute Regiment veteran Franc S. Milburn joins Martin Willis on Podcast UFO to discuss extraordinary accounts shared with him by fellow military veterans. These include an alleged late-1980s recovery operation involving a craft described by his source as “non-human,” and claims from RAF Tornado aircrews that they fired on disc-shaped objects that outmaneuvered their jets. We’ll explore how Milburn assesses these sources, what corroboration is available, and the questions these accounts raise about secrecy and alleged UFO retrieval programs. These are accounts relayed to Milburn, rather than events he personally witnessed; the UK Ministry of Defence told the Daily Mail it was unaware of salvage operations involving materials of unexplained origin. Our discussion will also cover the USS Nimitz encounter, Pentagon UAP investigations, and the potential strategic implications of reported advanced aerospace capabilities. Milburn is the author of the Begin-Sadat Center papers The Pentagon’s UAP Task Force and American Development of UAP Technology: A Fait Accompli?

https://independent.academia.edu/FrancMilburn

BIO: Franc Milburn is a former UK Defence Intelligence officer, Army Paratrooper, DoD / State Department military contractor and consultant. He has run on-the-ground HUMINT operations in conflict zones with Special Operations teams. He has three decades of analytical, investigatory and risk advisory experience, including aerospace, Fortune 500 and FTSE 100. An alumnus of Sandhurst and the London School of Economics, he’s a member of the Scientific Coalition for UAP Studies. The Begin-Sadat Center for Strategic Studies published two UAP papers of his. He is also a think tank expert on Iran, Kurdish insurgency and increasingly, on Russian hybrid warfare in Europe, with a special focus on drone operations targeting military assets and critical infrastructure. He was the very first to write highly prescient open-source assessments of Russian Shadow Fleet drone operations in the Danish Straits (Sept-Oct 2025 and Feb 2026), as well as for UK airbase incursions in November 2024. He provides risk advisory and intelligence services to C-Suite and high net-worth individuals.

SHOW 786 NOTES: David Beaty and Jimmy Hernandez III

Simulcast on YouTube, Facebook & Twitter | Thursday, September 24, 2026 @ 8:00 PM EDT (GMT-4)

A witness from USS Nimitz Primary Flight Control steps forward to share an account he says he kept even from his wife for years. Join Martin Willis LIVE on Podcast UFO, Thursday, September 24, at 8:00 PM ET, with Navy veteran Jimmy Hernandez III and filmmaker David Beaty, director of The Nimitz Encounters: Inside the Navy’s UFO Mystery. Stationed aboard USS Nimitz from July 2001 to June 2006, Jimmy worked in Primary Flight Control directly under the Air Boss and Mini Boss. In his first live interview, he discusses his perspective on the 2004 Tic Tac incident, his account of men arriving to take recordings, and why he remained silent for so long. Jimmy says his commitment to following orders was so strong that he only told his wife about the incident a few months before recording his interview for Beaty’s documentary. David joins us to discuss his updated 2026 film, which revisits the encounter with additional witness testimony and new forensic recreations. We’ll explore the film’s claims concerning confiscated recordings, rewritten logs, and CIA operations, and ask what can be established through testimony and supporting evidence. What did Jimmy personally observe? What happened inside Primary Flight Control? And what questions remain more than two decades later? 

BIO: Jimmy Hernandez III, 47, is a U.S. Navy veteran who served aboard USS Nimitz from July 2001 to June 2006. He and his wife, Jennifer M. Rogers Hernandez, have been married for 11 years. His commitment to following orders led him to keep his account of the Tic Tac incident private, even from his wife, until a few months before his interview for The Nimitz Encounters. Jimmy comes from a family with a history of military service. His maternal grandfather served as a machine gunner aboard a tracked landing vehicle in the Pacific during World War II, and his paternal grandfather served in the Korean War. He enlisted in the Navy in March 2001 and reported aboard Nimitz that July, shortly after the ship emerged from dry dock at Naval Station Norfolk, Virginia. Following the September 11 attacks, the ship changed its homeport to Naval Air Station North Island in San Diego, California. During his time aboard Nimitz, Jimmy completed two Western Pacific deployments and worked in Primary Flight Control directly under the Air Boss and Mini Boss. In 2006, he transferred to shore duty at Naval Outlying Landing Field San Nicolas Island. In 2008, he volunteered for an Individual Augmentee assignment and trained with the Army at Fort Bliss, Texas, before deploying to Iraq with Naval Provisional Detainee Battalion Ramadi 2. He conducted detainee operations briefly at Camp Bucca and later at Camp Taji. Jimmy completed his active duty service honorably after eight years, eleven months, and nineteen days and held an active Secret security clearance until 2013.

BIO: Multi Emmy-Award winning television producer and cinematographer Dave C. Beaty is a UFO researcher, former broadcast journalist, and currently a filmmaker. His career in non-fiction television and documentary spans 30+ years with production company Cinegraphic Productions. Career highlights include national programing on PBS, History Channel, Travel Channel and A&E and includes work on all major news networks and cable networks. A seven-time Emmy-winner, his current work includes producing more than a dozen nationally televised films in partnership with The WWII Foundation, preserving WWII history with multiple documentary films.

www.cinegraphicproductions.com

www.thenimitzencounters.com

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SHOW 785 NOTES: UK Police Inspector Roy Teague

Simulcast on YouTube, Facebook & Twitter | Tuesday, September 22, 2026 @ 8:00 PM EDT (GMT-4)

What happens when the people trained to investigate the unexplained become the witnesses? Serving UK Police Inspector Roy Teague joins host Martin Willis to discuss UFO encounters reported by serving and retired police officers—including accounts involving missing time and alleged abduction experiences. A British Army veteran with more than 26 years in policing, Roy’s background includes armed response, tactical firearms command and protection duties for members of the Royal Family and Parliament. His investigations into UFOs and paranormal events have led him to interview more than 250 serving and retired officers, many sharing experiences they had previously kept private.His book, Close Encounters of the Police Kind, brings together previously unheard accounts from UK police witnesses. We’ll explore what officers reported, why some were reluctant to speak, and how Roy approaches extraordinary claims with an investigator’s attention to evidence.How are UFO incidents perceived, reported and investigated within UK policing? What can an officer’s training bring to an account—and what questions remain unanswered?

BOOK: Close Encounters of the Police Kind
YOUTUBE CHANNEL: Policing the Unexplained
CONTACT: contact@policingtheunexplained.com

Insp Roy Teague Bio
Inspector Roy Teague served six years in the British Army, completing operational tours in both Northern Ireland and Bosnia before embarking on a distinguished policing career spanning more than twenty-six years across two police forces. Throughout his career, Roy has led a frontline existence working on emergency response, proactive teams and the elite Firearms Operations Unit of West Midlands Police as an Authorised Firearms Officer and both an operational and Tactical Firearms Commander, where calm judgement and decisive action are demanded in the most dangerous of circumstances. Many of these operations have led to the arrest of some of the country’s most dangerous armed criminals. He has also led protection details for some of the country’s most important figures including members of the Royal Family and Parliament. He has been awarded numerous commendations for bravery including one from a Chief Constable and another from a High Court Judge at the Old Bailey in his own attempted murder trial. His career has been built on evidence, discipline and an unwavering pursuit of the truth. Yet it is another skill that has taken him into territory few police officers have ever explored. A world just beyond our own – a place where mankind has no jurisdiction – where reality rides a razor thin seam between fact and impossibility – the world of UFOs, and the paranormal. In the perplexing field of unexplained studies, where hard evidence is often elusive, credibility remains the cornerstone of serious investigation. Roy’s reputation for professionalism and discretion enabled him to earn the trust of those trained to observe, question and report facts. That reputation opened the door to one of the most remarkable investigations of his career: interviewing more than 250 serving and retired police officers about their own encounters with unexplained aerial phenomena and paranormal events. Officers with nothing to gain and everything to lose finally broke their silence describing extraordinary close encounters involving missing time and alleged abduction experiences. The officers spoke because one of their own was asking the questions —and because they knew they would be treated with professionalism, respect and without ridicule. That research culminated in the publication of Close Encounters of the Police Kind, a unique investigation unlike any before it: law enforcement interviewing law enforcement about a phenomenon that has remained hidden behind the badge for decades. Blending the rigour of criminal investigation with first-hand testimony from experienced police officers, Roy offers readers a rare glimpse into a world where the unexplained collides with those sworn to uphold the law.

Show 784 Notes: Kevin Estrella

Simulcast on YouTube, Facebook & Twitter | Thursday, September 17, 2026 @ 8:00 PM EDT (GMT-4)

Could a UFO encounter change the way someone creates music? Guitarist and experiencer Kevin Estrella joins Martin Willis to explore his reported encounters, telepathic experiences, and the mysterious inspiration behind his instrumental rock project, Pyramids on Mars. Kevin traces a turning point to August 21, 2014, when he says he encountered a craft he believed was of otherworldly origin. He describes subsequent experiences involving vivid dreams, symbols, synchronicities, and “musical downloads,” melodies and ideas he attributes to nonhuman intelligence. His album Cosmic Angels draws inspiration from these reported visitations, blending hard rock and metal with influences from Bach and Vivaldi. Kevin also explores connections he sees between music, telepathic storytelling, and the tonal communication of whales.

BIO: Kevin Estrella, the Canadian solo guitarist and composer behind Pyramids on Mars. For more than 20 years, Kevin has researched UFOs and extraterrestrial phenomena in an effort to better understand why they are here and what their presence may mean for humanity. His lifelong passion for UFOs, extraterrestrials, and higher consciousness eventually merged with his musical calling, giving rise to the instrumental rock project Pyramids on Mars. Known for a powerful blend of hard rock, industrial, and psychedelic metal, Kevin’s music is also shaped by melodic influences from Baroque composers such as Bach and Vivaldi. His albums include Echo Cosmic and Edge of the Black.

Kevin’s music | UFO radio show | Official First Contact

Show 783 Notes: Norio Hayakawa

Simulcast on YouTube, Facebook & Twitter | Tuesday, September 15, 2026 @ 8:00 PM EDT (GMT-4)

What if UFOs are real, but the extraterrestrial explanation is wrong? Longtime UFO researcher Norio Hayakawa joins Martin Willis on Podcast UFO to explore that question through his decades of interest in Area 51, Dulce, New Mexico, and the broader UFO mystery. Hayakawa began studying the subject in 1961 and questions the evidence behind claims of alien spacecraft and underground alien bases. Background and research interests Our planned discussion explores why he favors a “paraphysical” interpretation, meaning an intelligence that he believes can temporarily appear within our physical world. We will also examine how his Christian beliefs inform his thinking about the phenomenon, deception, and alleged encounters. These are Hayakawa’s personal interpretations, open to discussion and questioning. Hayakawa’s explanation of his views Where does the evidence lead, where does belief enter the picture, and what would it take to change his mind?

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Explore Norio’s writing: Norio Hayakawa’s website: https://noriohayakawa.wordpress.com

BIO: Norio Hayakawa is an Albuquerque, New Mexico, UFO researcher who began studying the subject in 1961. His longtime interests include Area 51 and Dulce. His writing combines skepticism toward alien visitation claims with a personal belief that the phenomenon may have a paraphysical or spiritual origin.

 

Fatima: Miracle of the Sun
Upcoming guests: Tony Woody (10-15), Lue Elizondo (10-06), Allagash Abductees, Charlie Foltz & Jim Weiner (10-13), Jeff Nuccelli (10-20)

Show 782 Notes: Philip Mantle

Simulcast on YouTube, Facebook & Twitter | Thursday, September 10, 2026 @ 8:00 PM EDT (GMT-4)

Longtime British UFO researcher, author and publisher Philip Mantle joins Martin Willis for a fascinating look back at more than four decades of UFO investigation—and the evidence that may still be sitting undiscovered in filing cabinets, attics and forgotten archives. Philip discusses his expansive retrospective, UFO REFLECTIONS, including the remarkable videotaped testimony of former Deputy Sheriff Charles Forgus, who claimed that he witnessed the recovery operation at Roswell in 1947. The conversation also explores: • The infamous Alien Autopsy film and how Philip helped expose the truth behind it • The 1980 Normanton, England, UFO landing reportedly witnessed by a mother and several children • How two of those children, now adults, were found decades later and reaffirmed the account • New witnesses and previously unseen recordings connected to the 1973 Pascagoula encounter • The secretly recorded conversation between Calvin Parker and Charles Hickson • Philip’s friendship with Calvin Parker and his efforts to preserve Calvin’s story • How forgotten film, audio and online comments can uncover important new witnesses • The growing problem of AI-generated UFO stories being presented as authentic evidence Philip Mantle is a former Director of Investigations for the British UFO Research Association and the founder of Flying Disk Press. Throughout his career, he has investigated celebrated cases, exposed major hoaxes and preserved testimony that might otherwise have disappeared. UFO REFLECTIONS and Philip Mantle’s other books: https://www.amazon.com/stores/author/… Flying Disk Press: https://flyingdiskpress.blogspot.com/

BIO: Philip Mantle is a British UFO researcher, internationally published author, and publisher with more than four decades of experience investigating the UFO phenomenon. He formerly served as Director of Investigations for the British UFO Research Association (BUFORA) and as the Mutual UFO Network’s (MUFON) representative for England. A lecturer and broadcaster, Mantle is also the founder of Flying Disk Press, bringing UFO research and accounts from around the world to English-speaking readers.

 

Show 781 Notes: Alex Dietrich

Simulcast on YouTube, Facebook & Twitter | Tuesday, September 08, 2026 @ 8:00 PM EDT (GMT-4)

One of the most important interviews ever presented on Podcast UFO, host Martin Willis sits down with former U.S. Navy F/A-18 pilot Alex Dietrich for a candid discussion of the November 14, 2004 Tic Tac UFO encounter involving the USS Nimitz Carrier Strike Group. Dietrich describes how an otherwise routine training mission suddenly changed when her flight was redirected by the USS Princeton to investigate an unidentified contact. She recalls the disturbance in the ocean, the moment the white Tic Tac-shaped object entered her field of view and the confusion of watching it react to Commander David Fravor’s aircraft. “We weren’t supposed to be there,” Dietrich explains. “What the hell is this thing? Where did it come from? What is it doing? How is it doing that? Is it a threat?” Flying high cover during the encounter, Dietrich found herself fascinated and unnerved. The aircrew were unarmed, the object could not be identified and no one knew what it was capable of doing. Years later, after questioning whether they might have been unknowingly sent into a secret American test, she says she was repeatedly reassured that the object was not a U.S. system, that no submarine was operating in the area and that there was no evidence of American or allied activity responsible for what they witnessed. Dietrich also discusses the troubling absence of an immediate formal investigation. No specialized reporting system, debriefing procedure or UAP investigative infrastructure existed for the aircrews at the time. When she was eventually questioned at the Pentagon years later, details had already begun to fade. The conversation goes far beyond the mechanics of the encounter. Dietrich explains why she does not consider herself a whistleblower, how her identity became public after information from the case appeared online, why she resisted media attention and what finally persuaded her to appear on 60 Minutes. She speaks about the ridicule experienced by military witnesses, the need to examine extraordinary reports without automatically embracing or dismissing them and the importance of treating experiencers with dignity. Her position remains neutral: she does not claim to know what the Tic Tac was, but she believes unexplained objects in controlled military and civilian airspace deserve serious, scientifically responsible investigation. This is the story of the Tic Tac encounter from one of its principal eyewitnesses, told with honesty, humor and extraordinary clarity. ***VIDEO CLIPS PROVIDED BY DAVE BEATY

*** Correction: John Mack was a psychiatrist

BIO: Alex Dietrich is a retired U.S. Navy lieutenant commander who served for 20 years as a naval officer and F/A-18F Super Hornet strike fighter pilot. She completed two combat deployments supporting Operations Iraqi Freedom and Enduring Freedom and later served on the ground in Afghanistan as an infrastructure reconstruction engineer. Her military honors include the Bronze Star and Air Medal.

Dietrich is best known publicly as one of the four naval aviators who witnessed the now-famous Tic Tac UFO during a training mission with the USS Nimitz Carrier Strike Group on November 14, 2004. Flying as Commander David Fravor’s wingwoman, Dietrich maintained high cover while observing the smooth, white, wingless object maneuver above a disturbance in the Pacific Ocean before rapidly departing. She has since briefed officials at the Pentagon and Congress and appeared on 60 Minutes and other major news programs to discuss the encounter.

Following her operational career, Dietrich taught Naval Science at a consortium of Washington, D.C., universities and served as a military professor in Leadership, Ethics and Law at the U.S. Naval Academy. Her academic work has included critical thinking, leadership, ethics, resilience and change management. Despite the attention surrounding the Nimitz encounter, Dietrich remains deliberately neutral about the object’s origin and advocates for careful, evidence-based investigation without stigma or sensationalism.

Show 779 Notes: Rich Hoffman

Simulcast on YouTube, Facebook & Twitter | Tuesday, September 01, 2026 @ 8:00 PM EDT (GMT-4)

Veteran UFO researcher Rich Hoffman joins Martin Willis to discuss his remarkable six-decade journey investigating UFOs and UAP, from the 1964 Socorro era through MUFON, decades of defense systems work and today’s scientific study of anomalous phenomena. Rich discusses the Scientific Coalition for UAP Studies, what constitutes meaningful UAP evidence, the need for sophisticated sensors and rigorous methodology, government involvement, his presentation at a NATO Space Domain conference, and what researchers have and have not learned after more than 60 years of investigation.

BIO: Rich Hoffman is a retired Senior Systems Engineering Analyst who spent more than 30 years supporting the U.S. Army Materiel Command at Redstone Arsenal in Huntsville, Alabama. With a B.A. in Organizational Communication from Wright State University and a broad professional background in IT, training, organizational development and leadership, he has also devoted nearly six decades to investigating and researching UFOs/UAP, beginning in 1964 around the time of the Lonnie Zamora Socorro incident. Growing up in Dayton, Ohio, Rich joined the Midwest UFO Network, later MUFON, in 1969 and went on to serve in numerous leadership roles, including State Director, Star Team Manager, Deputy Director for Investigations and Director of Strategic Projects; he remains a MUFON Benefactor and Lifetime Member. In 2017, he helped establish the Scientific Coalition for UAP Studies (SCU), where he currently serves as an Executive Board Officer. SCU brings together more than 400 scientists, engineers, former military personnel, academics and business professionals to study UAP using scientific methods and advanced technologies. Rich also serves as a Board Advisor to the Society for UAP Studies (SUAPS), represented the United States at a NATO Space Domain conference in Bologna, Italy, in 2022, and has appeared on numerous television, radio and podcast programs, including as a regular contributor to History Channel’s The Proof Is Out There. He has also coauthored several scientific papers on UAP research, many of which are available through the SCU website.

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Show 780 Notes: LIVE SHOW | Dean Merchant Rye New Hampshire Library

Live Audience Simulcast on YouTube, Facebook & Twitter | Thursday, September 03, 2026 @ 6:30 PM EDT (GMT-4)

Martin Willis interviews Dean Merchant live at the Rye New Hampshire Library, with a live audience, for a fascinating conversation about UFOs in New Hampshire. Dean, co-founder of the Exeter UFO Festival, discusses why the Granite State has long been considered one of the most active UFO regions in America. The conversation explores the legendary 1965 Incident at Exeter, the continuing mystery surrounding sightings in the Exeter/Kensington area, and other notable New Hampshire hotspots including Fremont, Brentwood, Raymond, Nottingham, Pawtuckaway, Ossipee, and the White Mountains. We also get into theories about why these areas may be so active, from geology and rare minerals to reports of USOs and long-standing witness testimony. If you’re interested in New England UFO history, regional hotspots, and the ongoing mystery of unexplained sightings in New Hampshire, this is an episode you won’t want to miss.

Guest: Dean Merchant
Host: Martin Willis
Location: Rye New Hampshire Library

BIO: Dean Merchant is a local historian who serves as a witness in the context of UAP/UFO research. He is featured in the video “Incident at Exeter,” which discusses Norman Muscarello’s 1965 UFO encounter, contributing to the historical narrative surrounding UAP phenomena. His role as a historian adds a contextual layer to the examination of such incidents

SHOW 777 NOTES: U.S. Air Force Pararescueman (ret) Scott Gearen

Simulcast on YouTube, Facebook & Twitter | Tuesday, August 25, 2026 @ 8:00 PM EDT (GMT-4)

What did retired U.S. Air Force Pararescueman Scott Gearen photograph in the sky over Florida, and could something extraordinary be hiding in plain sight?

Scott joins Martin Willis to discuss his books, *Hiding in Plain Sight* and *Hiding in Plain Sight Volume II*, which document a mysterious aerial phenomenon he witnessed and photographed during a 2019 speaking engagement in Panama City Beach, Florida. Scott believes his series of photographs captures something genuinely unidentified. We’ll examine what he saw, how the images were taken, what they reveal and whether more conventional explanations can be ruled out.

Scott brings an unusually grounded perspective to the subject. He served for more than 22 years in elite U.S. Air Force special operations as a Pararescueman and Special Tactics pioneer. His career included service with JSOC, training in Rendlesham Forest, leading the first MH-53 penetration into Iraq at the beginning of Desert Storm and helping rescue two downed pilots from enemy territory in the Balkans.

We will also discuss the catastrophic 1984 parachuting accident in which Scott fell more than 3,000 feet beneath a destroyed canopy and struck the ground at approximately 100 miles per hour. During the ordeal, he experienced a profound near-death experience that transformed his understanding of consciousness, energy, human connection and what may happen at death.

Does Scott’s military experience make him an especially reliable observer? What exactly appears in his photographs? Could the object represent an unfamiliar aircraft, an atmospheric phenomenon or something even more extraordinary?

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Show 778 Notes: Grant Lavac

Simulcast on YouTube, Facebook & Twitter | Thursday, August 27, 2026 @ 8:00 PM EDT (GMT-4)

Australian UAP researcher and activist Grant Lavac returns to Podcast UFO for a wide-ranging discussion about Australia’s surprisingly limited public response to the UFO phenomenon. While the United States treats UAP as a potential aviation-safety and national-security concern, Australia has no dedicated reporting system for its military or civilian pilots. According to Grant, Australians who witness something unexplained may simply be advised to contact the police or a civilian UFO organization. Yet documents obtained through Freedom of Information requests reveal a more complicated story. Australia participated in the inaugural Five Eyes UAP Caucus Working Group alongside the United States, Canada, the United Kingdom and New Zealand. Is Australia privately more engaged with the subject than its officials acknowledge publicly? Grant also discusses: Australia’s lack of a formal UAP reporting and investigative system The classified Five Eyes conversation about UAP What Australian defence and intelligence officials may know His Freedom of Information discoveries The 60th anniversary of the 1966 Westall UFO incident Newly reported information involving missing police records The unexplained disappearance of pilot Frederick Valentich The need for firsthand witnesses and physical evidence Growing “disclosure fatigue” within the UFO community Whether witnesses should receive immunity to testify Preparing the public for potentially world-changing disclosure Grant is the host of The Unexplained Rundown, where he reports on Australian UAP policy, government documents and his continuing efforts to obtain greater transparency. What do you think: Is Australia genuinely ignoring the UAP issue, or is a very different conversation happening behind closed doors?

BIO:

Grant Lavac is a UAP (Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena) researcher, activist, and podcaster based in Melbourne, Australia. Fascinated by the UFO mystery since childhood, he describes himself as “an ordinary guy who believes in extraordinary things.” Lavac is a prominent advocate for greater transparency and accountability in how governments, particularly Australia’s, investigate and communicate about UAPs.

 

Through persistent Freedom of Information Act (FOI) requests, he has sought to uncover official records and shed light on Australia’s involvement (and lack thereof) in global UAP research efforts. He hosts The Unexplained Rundown podcast, where he discusses UAP developments, government policy, and disclosure initiatives, while also engaging with leading voices in the UFO community.

 

Lavac has appeared as a guest on podcasts such as That UFO Podcast, Somewhere in the Skies, and Inside The Black Vault with John Greenewald, Jr, where he continues to promote informed public dialogue and responsible investigation of the UAP phenomenon.

Show 776 Notes: Jacques Vallée

Simulcast on YouTube, Facebook & Twitter | Thursday, August 20, 2026 @ 8:00 PM EDT (GMT-4)

Veteran UFO researcher, scientist and author Jacques Vallée joins Martin Willis for an extraordinary conversation about his newest book, Forbidden Science 7: Final Report—The Journals of Jacques Vallée 2020–2025. The seventh and final volume of Vallée’s remarkable journals chronicles a pivotal five-year period in the history of the UFO phenomenon—one marked by government hearings, whistleblower allegations, growing public discussion of UAP and renewed demands for disclosure. But after more than six decades of investigation, Vallée continues to caution that the phenomenon may be far stranger and more consequential than the conventional idea of extraterrestrial spacecraft visiting Earth. In this conversation, Jacques discusses what he witnessed behind the scenes during the rapidly changing years from 2020 through 2025, what the public still misunderstands about UFO disclosure and why revelations surrounding the phenomenon may carry profound scientific, cultural and spiritual implications. We also explore the patterns that have shaped Vallée’s work: physical evidence, close encounters, consciousness, secrecy, deception, folklore and the possibility that the phenomenon has influenced humanity throughout history. Is society prepared for what may be revealed? What have governments learned and what remains genuinely unknown? After a lifetime spent pursuing forbidden science, how does Jacques Vallée now interpret the mystery?

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BIO: Jacques F. Vallée is a principal at Documatica Financial and a diversified investor with a passion for technology startups in space development, medical equipment and information management. He earned a Bachelors Degree in mathematics from the Sorbonne, a Masters Degree in astrophysics from Lille University and a PhD in Computer Science /AI from Northwestern University (1967).

Based in Silicon Valley, Jacques has served as a founder and general partner in five venture funds, including NASA’s “Red Planet Capital”. Among the companies for which he spearheaded early-stage financings, fourteen achieved IPOs, notably Electronics for Imaging, Accuray Systems (developers of the “Cyberknife” for cancer surgery), NeoPhotonics (Nanotechnology for optical networks), Mercury Interactive, P-Com, Isocor, Regeneration Technologies, Harmonic Lightwaves, Ixys, Integrated Packaging, E.Piphany, Sangstat Medical, Com21 and Synaptic Pharmaceuticals, specialized in neurotransmitter biology. He served as a member of the Board of Directors of many of these firms.

Other companies financed by Jacques (in particular, HandyLab that produced an instrument recognized as “transformative for oncology”) were successfully acquired by Becton-Dickinson, Intel, Lucent, AOL, Cisco, Wilson Greatbatch and Intuitive Surgical.

In his early career Jacques worked at Paris Observatory and at the astronomy department of the University of Texas in Austin, where he co-developed the first computer-based map of planet Mars. Moving to California after management positions with Shell and RCA, he implemented (with Jake Feinler) the first Network Information Center on the Arpanet and later served as a principal investigator for DARPA and NSF. Jacques has published several textbooks about computer networking and has maintained a long-term interest in unidentified flying objects, currently (2020) serving on the expert committee of the French CNES tasked with studying such reports. He received the Jules Verne Prize for his first science-fiction novel (in French). He resides between San Francisco and Paris. He has two children and three grandchildren.

Mail may be addressed to Jacques Vallée P.O. Box 641650 San Francisco, CA 94164

Show 775 Notes: Christopher Noël

Simulcast on YouTube, Facebook & Twitter | Tuesday, August 18, 2026 @ 8:00 PM EDT (GMT-4)

What if missing time, telepathy, synchronicities and distortions of reality are not side effects of UFO encounters, but clues to their true nature? Yale-trained philosopher Christopher Noël, author of The Anatomy of Thin Air, joins Martin Willis to explore the “Oz Factor” and his recently published Nested Field Theory. Could consciousness function as a field, and could its interaction with physical reality help explain some of the high strangeness associated with UFO encounters? WEBSITE

BIO: Christopher Noël holds a master’s degree in philosophy from Yale University. His books explore a wide range of phenomena and attempt to understand them under one umbrella as manifestations of consciousness. His most recent releases are The Anatomy of Thin Air and Homegrown Monsters.

Show 774 Notes: Professor Mathew Bowman

Simulcast on YouTube, Facebook & Twitter | Tuesday, August 11, 2026 @ 8:00 PM EDT (GMT-4)

Martin Willis welcomes historian Matthew Bowman, author of The Abduction of Betty and Barney Hill: Alien Encounters, Civil Rights, and the New Age in America. Published by Yale University Press, the book examines the famous 1961 New Hampshire encounter that became the model for the modern alien-abduction story. Bowman explores the Hills’ reported experience, the controversial role of hypnosis and the case’s connections to civil rights, religion, government secrecy and America’s growing distrust of institutions. Was this an extraterrestrial encounter, a psychological event or a mystery that remains unresolved? The book’s distinctive angle is excellent for your interview: Bowman treats the Hill story as both a UFO case and a window into American history, without making the conversation depend entirely on proving or disproving an abduction. Yale University Press describes the Hills’ experience as the template for later alien-encounter stories and emphasizes their lives as an interracial New Hampshire couple and civil rights activists.

Upcoming Virtual Zoom Lecture August 18th: https://portsmouthhistory.org/event/lecture-three-ways-of-looking-at-ufos/

BIO: Matthew Bowman is Associate Professor of Religion and History at Claremont Graduate University, and was appointed the Howard W. Hunter Chair of Mormon Studies, with a joint appointment in history and religion, in 2019. He is a specialist in American religious history, with particular interests in Mormonism, new religious movements, and the development of the concept of “religion” in the United States. He teaches courses on North American religions and Mormonism in the department of religion, and on the history of the United States in the department of history.

Prior to his arrival at CGU, Bowman held positions at Hampden-Sydney College and Henderson State University. He received his PhD from Georgetown University in 2011, and has regularly appeared in the national media to comment on Mormonism and American religion. He has written for the Washington Post, Slate, The New Republic, and the Huffington Post, and has appeared on MSNBC and NPR.

Show 773 Notes: Rabbi Michael “Moshe” Rothschild

Simulcast on YouTube, Facebook & Twitter | Thursday, August 06, 2026 @ 8:00 PM EDT (GMT-4)

Rabbi Michael “Moshe” Rothschild joins Martin Willis for a wide-ranging conversation exploring UFOs, extraterrestrial life, consciousness, and the profound questions that possible contact with nonhuman intelligence could raise for religion and humanity. An Orthodox Rabbi and Kabbalist, Rothschild brings a theological and philosophical perspective to the modern UAP discussion, examining how ancient religious traditions might interpret nonhuman beings and whether faith would be challenged—or expanded—by confirmation that we are not alone.The conversation will also explore government transparency, congressional UAP hearings, alleged abduction experiences, the Fermi Paradox, the Zeta Reticuli hypothesis, and former Israeli space security chief Chaim Eshed’s controversial statements concerning extraterrestrial cooperation. Martin and Rabbi Rothschild will consider the connections among mysticism, consciousness, artificial intelligence, emerging technology, and humanity’s future—while separating thoughtful inquiry from sensational claims and asking how genuine disclosure, whatever it ultimately reveals, might transform our understanding of reality and our place in the universe.

BIO: Rabbi Michael “Moshe” Rothschild is an Orthodox rabbi, Kabbalist, educator, public speaker, and digital content creator best known for the ongoing #ViralRabbi project, which many supporters describe as a real-life “Truman Show.” For more than four years, they have maintained multiple simultaneous 24/7/365 livestreams documenting daily life, conversations, and public engagement across numerous online platforms. As a result of this continuous broadcasting, they state that they have archived an unprecedented volume of personal livestream footage and digital content, which they describe as more personal data than any other individual has ever continuously preserved.

The project is intended to serve not only as a continuous public record of one person’s life, but also as a living timeline and digital time capsule that future generations may be able to study. As artificial intelligence systems continue to rely on increasingly large datasets for training, long-duration, uninterrupted records of authentic human behavior may provide a unique form of longitudinal data for future historical, sociological, computational, and AI research. Publications including The Economisthave described data as surpassing petroleum in economic importance, reflecting its growing role as one of the world’s most valuable resources. Within that context, the #ViralRabbi project seeks to preserve an extensive, continuously recorded archive of human experience that may have lasting historical and technological significance.

Through these livestreams, Rabbi Rothschild engages audiences in discussions on religion, philosophy, technology, artificial intelligence, futurism, history, ethics, science, and unexplained phenomena while fostering respectful dialogue and critical thinking. Their work centers on making complex subjects accessible to a global audience through continuous live broadcasting, educational programming, and online community engagement.

Find more information at Linktree.com/RabbiRothschild, Discord.me/Rabbi, and RabbiRothschild.Medium.com.