753. Jordan Flowers

In this episode of Podcast UFO, Martin Willis and UFO Jack welcome Jordan Flowers of the Disclosure Foundation for a discussion on UFO disclosure, government transparency, classified file releases, and the growing momentum surrounding the UAP topic in Washington, D.C. Jordan discusses the impact of the 2017 The New York Times UFO article by Leslie Kean, the Disclosure Foundation’s work with FOIA requests and congressional briefings, recent NSA and military UAP releases, and the upcoming Disclosure Forum taking place June 25th in the historic Kennedy Caucus Room inside the U.S. Senate. Topics include national security, declassified documents, whistleblowers, public stigma, media coverage, and the future of UFO transparency and disclosure.

Show 753 Notes: Jordan Flowers

Simulcast on YouTube, Facebook & Twitter | Tuesday, MAY 26, 2026 @ 8:00 PM EDT (GMT-4)

In this episode of Podcast UFO, Martin Willis and co-host UFO Jack welcome Jordan Flowers of the Disclosure Foundation for a deep discussion on UFO disclosure, government transparency, newly released classified files, and the growing political momentum surrounding the UAP topic. Jordan shares how the landmark 2017 The New York Times article by Leslie Kean first drew him into the subject and how his background in finance, consulting, and operations eventually led him into the center of today’s disclosure movement. The conversation explores the Disclosure Foundation’s work involving FOIA requests, mandatory declassification reviews (MDRs), congressional briefings, whistleblower advocacy, and efforts to expand serious public discussion around the phenomenon. The discussion also covers the latest NSA and UAP-related document releases, reports involving mysterious orb encounters near military facilities, and why Jordan believes recent developments represent major progress despite frustrations over the pace of disclosure. He also discusses the upcoming Disclosure Forum being held June 25th inside the historic Kennedy Caucus Room in the U.S. Senate, featuring lawmakers, academics, scientists, and national security experts. Topics include UFO transparency, Congress, national security, declassified files, disclosure legislation, media coverage, public stigma, and the future of the UAP conversation. If you enjoy the show, please subscribe, like, and share. Your support helps independent longform conversations continue.

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A 1977 Multiple Witness Case From Italy

by UFO History Buff & Author, Charles Lear 

In 1977, in the midst of a good deal of UFO activity in Italy, there was a multiple witness case that was investigated not only by a private UFO group, but by the Carabinieri (Italian national police) as well. The witnesses reported seeing lights, a cylindrical object, and a humanoid over a period of around three hours, during which they, the witnesses, made multiple approaches and retreats. Verga Maurizio wrote an article (page 20 of the pdf) covering the events headlined “Seven Scared Witnesses and a Humanoid” that was published in the Volume 25, Number 1, May 1979 Flying Saucer Review.

According to Maurizio, there were enough reports of UFO sightings, “especially at low altitude” and including close encounter reports to constitute “a wave.” During this, “there was one particularly strange, and important, incident” that had several witnesses, two of which were hypnotically regressed. The case was investigated by Umberto Telarico and Giorgio Russolillo of the Naples-base Federazione Uoflogica Regionale Campania. Most of the report is based on interviews with 24-year-old students Rocco Cirullo and Michele Giovanniello, who were the two initial witnesses and not the ones who were hypnotically regressed. Read more

Blog: UFOs as Sky Creatures

Jerome Clark

by UFO History Buff & Author, Charles Lear 

Among the many possible explanations for UFOs is that some UFOs might be creatures that live in the sky. The person who became best known for this idea was Trevor James Constable who presented it, along with infrared photos of what he claimed were bioforms invisible to the naked eye, in his 1958 book (as Trevor James) They Live in the Sky. James wasn’t alone in his belief, and the concept of sky creatures goes back farther than 1958 in both speculative literature and science fiction.

A good starting point for the history of the sky-creatures hypothesis is the 1997 paper by Jerome Clark, Spacemen, Demons and Conspiracies, published by the Fund for UFO Research. Clark explores the many explanations for UFOs put forward throughout the years and looks at the SCH in the section “Secret Weapons and Space Animals.” After going into the speculation by people such as James Moseley, Leon Davidson, and Jacques Vallée that flying saucers/UFOs can be explained as classified secret weapons, Clark delves into the history of the sky-creature concept. Read more

SHOW 752 NOTES: Christian Lambright

Simulcast on YouTube, Facebook & Twitter | Tuesday, MAY 19, 2026 @ 8:00 PM EDT (GMT-4)

What really exists inside the government’s UFO files? This week on Podcast UFO, I’m joined by longtime UFO researcher and investigator Christian Lambright for a fascinating discussion on classified UFO history, Ray Stanford’s legendary UFO film archive, and the deeper questions surrounding consciousness, reality, and unexplained phenomena. Christian is currently working with the estate of pioneering UFO researcher Ray Stanford, helping preserve and examine some of the most compelling UFO films and photographic evidence ever captured. We’ll discuss the significance of these materials, what may still be hidden in government UFO archives, and why certain cases continue to withstand scrutiny decades later. A former investigator for Center for UFO Studies and contributor to Computer UFO Network, Christian brings decades of experience in UFO research, psychology, technology, and visual analysis to the conversation. We’ll also explore his book, X Descending, based on personal encounters and documented film evidence connected to extraordinary events he says he personally investigated.

Ray Stanford’s UFO image

Topics include:
• Government UFO/UAP files
• Ray Stanford’s UFO films and photographs
• Historical UFO investigations
• Consciousness and reality
• The intersection of science and unexplained phenomena
• Christian’s firsthand experiences behind X Descending

BIO: Christian Lambright is a former investigator for the Center for UFO Studies and a contributor to the Computer UFO Network. He holds a degree in Psychology from Baylor University, has worked extensively in Computer Technology and Internet services, and has a background in graphic arts and illustration.

 

UFOs in LIFE Magazine

by UFO History Buff & Author, Charles Lear 

In the early years of the flying saucer/UFO mystery, magazines played a significant part in the public perception of the phenomenon. One of the most popular magazines in that era was LIFE, which started covering saucer/UFO news at the very beginning during the 1947 summer of the saucers. For anyone interested in the early history of the phenomenon, Archives for the Unexplained has a collection of related magazine articles which includes LIFE articles from 1947 t0 1966.

In the article published in the July 1947 issue headlined “Speaking of Pictures… a Rash of Flying Disks Breaks Out Over the U.S.,” it is lamented that none of the many saucers seen that summer paused long enough to get its picture taken. There are pictures, however, of two fake saucers: one an obvious saw blade with what looks to be a capacitor attached to it held up by Reverend Joseph Brasky who claimed it hit the lightning rod of his church with an explosion, and the other an aluminum disk with what looks to be spent fireworks attached held up by a man from Shreveport, Louisiana, who said it flew out from behind a signboard. Read more

SHOW 750 Notes: Robert Powell

Simulcast on YouTube, Facebook & Twitter | Tuesday, MAY 12, 2026 @ 8:00 PM EDT (GMT-4)

Robert Powell of the Scientific Coalition for UAP Studies (SCU) joins Martin Willis to break down the growing controversy surrounding the recent UFO document and video release, and why the timing may be significant as the scientific and government worlds increasingly take UAP seriously. We also discuss the upcoming SCU 2026 Conference in Toronto, bringing together scientists, engineers, intelligence officials, defense experts, and policymakers for one of the most important evidence-based UAP conferences in the world. Featured keynote speaker Christopher Mellon will address transparency, aviation safety, and congressional oversight regarding unidentified objects operating in controlled military airspace. Robert discusses the conference theme, “The Role of Science and Global Governments in UAP Research,” along with SCU’s continued push toward rigorous investigation, calibrated sensor systems, structured data collection, and international scientific collaboration. Also appearing at the conference will be Dr. Randy Bostick, former Science Advisor to AARO, discussing the importance of high-quality data and disciplined analytical methods in the study of UAP.

Robert’s Book: https://www.amazon.com/UFOs-Scientist-Explains-What-Know/dp/1538173581

SCU 2026 Annual Conference
July 24–26, 2026
Toronto, Canada

Virtual attendance will also be available worldwide.

UFO Files: https://www.war.gov/UFO

BIO: Robert Powell has a BS degree in Chemistry and is a former collegiate debater. He has 28 years experience in engineering management in the semiconductor industry. While working at Advanced Micro Devices, Robert has taken numerous internal courses related to device physics, design of experiments and statistical analysis. He helped Advanced Micro Devices develop its first flash memory technology that is used in today’s flash cards for cameras, PCs, video cameras, and other products.
Robert’s experience includes managing a state-of-the-art chemistry laboratory and managing a Research and Development group that worked on nanotechnology using atomic force microscopes, near-field optical microscopy, and other techniques. Robert is also a co-holder of four patents related to nanotechnology.
Robert Powell was the former Director of Research at MUFON from 2007-2017 and created MUFON’s Science Review Board in 2012. He is one of two authors of the detailed radar/witness report on the “Stephenville Lights,” as well as the SCU report “UAP: 2013 Aguadilla, Puerto Rico”. Robert is a member of the Society for Scientific Exploration, the UFODATA project and the National Space Society. He is active with FOIA requests to various government organizations to obtain information on historical cases and is a co-author of the book, ‘UFOs and Government: A Historical Inquiry,’ published in 2012. Robert currently resides in Austin, Texas.

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Ted Bloecher’s Talk on Humanoids at the 1976 BUFORA Conference

by UFO History Buff & Author, Charles Lear 

Ted Bloecher, who passed away not too long ago at the age of 94, was a researcher/investigator who started out in the days of flying saucers as a founding member of Civilian Saucer Intelligence of New York and was active until the mid-1980s. He was an early researcher of humanoid reports starting in 1955, just after the 1954 French humanoid wave and the 1955 Kelly-Hopkinsville incident, and was the author of numerous publications on the subject. Tucked away in the United Kingdom file of the downloads section of the Archives for the Unexplained website is a report he wrote titled Close Encounters of the Third Kind that was published in 1977 by the British UFO Research Association. According to the introduction, the paper was prepared for a talk he gave at the BUFORA National UFO Conference at the Centre Hotel in Birmingham, England, in November 1976. The subtitle describes the paper as “The preliminary presentation of extensive study into UFO cases involving the reported sightings of humanoids and other alien beings.” In this blog, we’ll look at some of the highlights. Read more

Show 746 Notes: John & E.J. Craig

Simulcast on YouTube, Facebook & Twitter | Tuesday, MAY 05, 2026 @ 8:00 PM EDT (GMT-4)

John and E.J. Craig, a husband-and-wife UFO research team based in Denver, discuss their new platform UFO-Track.com, designed to detect and report UAP activity in real time. Moving beyond traditional after-the-fact sightings, their system combines sensor technology and citizen participation to generate multi-witness, multi-camera events as they happen. We talk about their UFO-Sense hardware, triangulation methods, and the concept of “proactive disclosure,” empowering the public to take part in serious data collection. It’s a fascinating look at where UFO research may be heading next.

BIO: John Craig | Scientist, Engineer, Inventor, Author John approaches the UFO phenomenon with the skepticism of a scientist and the curiosity of A REAL LIFE EXPERIENCER. Having witnessed anomalous activity since childhood, John utilizes his skills in programming, electronics, and data analysis to build the necessary tools to measure the “metrics” of the unexplained. He is the mastermind behind UFO-Track’s Real-time alert system and the inventor of both the UFO-Sense detection device and the UFO-CQ CE5 communication unit.

BIO: EJ Craig | Mathematician, Publisher, Co-Founder. The daughter of an aerospace engineer, EJ grew up with her eyes on the stars. As a mathematician, she brings rigorous analytical precision to the project. She focuses on the patterns, the logic of the network, and the “ground truth” of observational astronomy. EJ turns raw data into actionable real-time alerts for UFO-Track’s member community. Along with her husband and UFO experiencer John, they represent a paradigm shift in UFOlogy. EJ is also an Experiencer of Paranormal Phenomena, including Angels and Ghosts.

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SHOW 748 NOTES: Bogna Konior

Simulcast on YouTube, Facebook & Twitter | Thursday, May 07, 2026 @ 9:00 PM EDT (-5GMT)

What if the internet isn’t just a tool—but a hostile environment? In this fascinating conversation, co-host Dean Alioto and I speak with Bogna Konior about her new book The Dark Forest Theory of the Internet, published February 3rd. Drawing from Liu Cixin’s famous “Dark Forest Theory,” Konior reframes the internet as a kind of digital cosmos—one filled not just with people, but with unseen algorithms, artificial intelligence, and machine systems quietly shaping how we think and communicate. Is going online a form of “first contact”? Are we broadcasting too much in a space we don’t fully understand? And if the internet is being constantly monitored and interpreted by non-human intelligence, should we rethink how—and why—we communicate at all? This conversation explores the unsettling idea that deception may be safer than honesty online, and that silence might be the smartest strategy in an environment where we are never truly alone.
BOOK https://www.amazon.com/Dark-Forest-Theory-Internet-Redux/dp/1509569251

BIO: Bogna Konior is a scholar and a writer. She is currently Assistant Professor of Media Theory at NYU Shanghai, where she works at the Artificial Intelligence & Culture Research Center, and the Interactive Media Arts department. She is the author of Dark Forest Theory of the Internet (Polity, 2025). With Benjamin Bratton and Anna Greenspan, she is the editor of Machine Decision is Not Final: China and the History and Future of Artificial Intelligence (Urbanomic, 2025).

Show 745 Notes: Miguel Sancho

Simulcast on YouTube, Facebook & Twitter | Tuesday, April 28, 2026 @ 8:00 PM EDT (GMT-4)

In this episode of Podcast UFO, Martin speaks with Miguel Sancho, executive producer of the hit HISTORY® series The Proof Is Out There®, about his new book Evidence of the Extraordinary. We dive into how his team approaches some of the world’s most enduring mysteries using evidence, technology, and disciplined analysis rather than speculation. From UFOs and UAPs now entering mainstream discussion, to cryptozoology, simulation theory, ancient archaeology, and even the question of the afterlife, Sancho offers a rare behind-the-scenes look at how these cases are evaluated and, in some instances, explained. Are we getting closer to real answers—or just better questions? If you’re interested in separating fact from fiction in the world of high strangeness, this is a conversation you won’t want to miss.

Book link: https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Evidence-of-the-Extraordinary/Miguel-Sancho/9781668085455

BIO: Miguel Sancho is an Emmy Award–winning television producer currently showrunning and developing series and specials for A&E. For seven years he helped run the ABC primetime news magazine 20/20. Prior to that, he was an investigative producer at 20/20 and CBS News’s 48 Hours. He lives in Florida with his wife, Felicia Morton, and their two children, Lydia and Sebastian.

An Unusual Physical Trace Case From England

by UFO History Buff & Author, Charles Lear 

It’s always a plus when UFO cases come along with physical evidence to back them up. Sometimes this evidence is in the form of physiological effects on the witnesses, and cases involving these are numerous enough that investigators have been able to focus on them as a specific area of study. Conjunctivitis (burning red eyes), nausea, hair loss, numbness, paralysis, and burns are some of the symptoms commonly described, but a very unusual effect was reported in the following 1976 case from Bolton, England.

While the incident was said to have occurred in 1976, it didn’t show up in major media until 1987. In the March 1987 issue (page 19 of the pdf) of She magazine, there is an article by Peter Hough headlined “The UFO in Armadale Road.” According to Hough, at 5:15 p.m. on January 23, 1976, 17-year-old Shelley McLenaghan had just gotten off a bus and was 100 yards from home when she saw a UFO. She is quoted as saying, “Before that, I would have thought anybody who said they’d seen a UFO was crazy.” She added, “I think the government know far more than they let on.”

McLenaghan is then quoted describing her encounter: Read more

Blog: The Chuck Clark UFO Video!

by UFO History Buff & Author, Charles Lear 

Recently, footage taken of a video that has been described by documentarian James Fox as the holy grail of UFO videos has been shown online. The original video on VHS had been in the possession of one of the early Area 51 researchers, Chuck Clark, since 1995. Clark was reportedly offered a large sum of money to turn over the video, and he refused, whereupon underhanded means were employed to get what was on it out to the public.

This story goes all the way back to the 1990s when the United States was in the midst of its own special brand of paranoid UFOlogy, which emphasized government cover-ups and conspiracy theories fueled by the popularity of The X-Files. Area 51 had become the most famous secret base in the world after Bob Lazar, in silhouette using the name “Dennis,” was interviewed by George Knapp on KLAS in Las Vegas in May 1989. He claimed to have worked on reverse-engineering nine recovered alien space craft at a site he said was called “S-4” located in the southern section of Area 51.

The excitement stirred up by Lazar’s claim resulted in a flood of UFO tourists descending on the area. Many would stop at the only bar in the nearby small town of Rachel, Nevada, a population that usually numbers around 50 people. According to the “Rachel Timeline” section of A Short History of Rachel, Nevada by Glenn Campbell and Edith Grover, Pat and Joe Travis bought the Rachel Bar and Grill in 1988. They renamed it “The Little A’Le’Inn” and held the first annual UFO conference there in July of 1990. Read more