Show 402 Notes: Curt Collins, Historic UFOs & More

Simulcast on YouTube and KGRA Radio Tuesday April 28th, 6:00-8:00 PM EDT (-4GMT)

Guest Curt Collins on an update on his research on the classic 1980 Cash-Landrum UFO case, and talk a bit about his work on early historic cases, The Saucers That Time Forgot. He will then be discussing how he and other independent researchers have been chipping away at the secrets of AATIP, the secret Pentagon UFO program, the nature of work Robert Bigelow contracted with MUFON, and just allegedly how the $22M dollars was spent. 

The Saucers that Time Forgot: https://thesaucersthattimeforgot.blogspot.com

Cash-Landrum documents: https://www.blueblurrylines.com/2013/07/resource-guide-for-cash-landrum-ufo-case.html

The Scientific Coalition for UAP Studies (SCU) will be holding regular live-streaming sessions in which those who participate live will be able to ask questions during the presentation. The SCU will be inviting guests to present research on various topics related to the study of UAP. The videos will be archived on the SCU YouTube channel and at www.explorescu.com.

The first live-stream presentation will be on May 6, 2020 at 3 pm Pacific/6 pm Eastern and is titled Analysis of the “Ubatuba” material by Robert Powell. It is expected to last about an hour. The fist half will be presentation and then will open up to Q and A from the chat for the remainder.

Description: Robert Powell will review recent testing he completed on a 99.88% pure magnesium sample first obtained in the Ubatuba region of Brazil in 1957. Powell will review the history of the sample, previous chemical testing, isotopic analysis of the magnesium as well as isotopic analysis of impurities in the sample that were in 100ppm levels, namely strontium, barium, zinc, and copper. Lastly he will discuss the meaning of the results that he obtained.

Here is a link to the live-stream presentation: https://youtu.be/NamnxaADugo

Curtis L. Collins is the author behind Blue Blurry Lines, the website focused on the UFO mystery, as well as its legends and hoaxes. After a career in retail management Curt began writing about UFOs, with a special interest in re-investigating the paradoxical 1980 Texas Cash-Landrum case. In 2015 Curt was on the investigative team, the Roswell Slides Research Group, that exposed the BeWitness alien photo fiasco. More recently, he launched The Saucers That Time Forgot with Claude Falkstrom, focused on unearthing “tales that UFO history has overlooked, or would rather forget.” Curt lives in the southern United States, near Jackson, Mississippi. For more details: https://www.blueblurrylines.com/p/curt-collins-is-author-behind-blue.html

UFO Crash in Aztec New Mexico

By Charles Lear

 It often occurs among UFO enthusiasts that people will form a belief in a case and find it difficult to let go of that belief in spite of evidence that the case was more than likely a hoax.  The alleged 1948 crash and retrieval of a flying disk near Aztec, New Mexico is a classic example.  This case has spawned the well-known 1950 book by Frank Scully, “Behind the Flying Saucers”, two books that gave it new life, one in 1986 and one in 2011, and two extraordinary articles in True magazine that should serve as a model for investigative journalism.

Things got rolling on March 8, 1950 with a lecture at the University of Denver on the subject of flying saucers.  The lecturer spoke before a large group of students and remained anonymous for alleged security reasons.  He was originally chosen to provide a Basic Science class studying critical thinking something to work with but the word got out and, due to popular demand, it was necessary to move the lecture to a larger hall.  The man started with some background history, speculated that the craft were operated using magnetic propulsion and then mentioned that there had been four crashes and retrievals in America and a fifth in Africa.  A local paper wrote an article about the lecture and the hunt was on for the lecturer’s identity.  It was eventually discovered that the man in question was Silas P. Newton, who represented himself as a prominent geophysicist and businessman in the oil industry.  He happened to be a friend of Frank Scully, who was a writer for Variety, and Scully realized that he had a good story on his hands.  He talked with Newton who introduced him to a colleague who would be referred to only as “Dr. Gee” by Scully and the result was “Behind the Flying Saucers” published in September of that year.  It was in this book that details of the Aztec crash and retrieval were made public to a wide audience and a case was born that refuses to die in spite of evidence that the event in question never happened.

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Show Notes: Dean Alioto & Zelia Edgar

Simulcast on YouTube and KGRA Radio

Tuesday April 21st, 6:00-8:00 PM EDT (-4GMT)

SEGMENT ONE: Filmmaker and UFO researcher Dean Alioto talks about the new remastered 30th Anniversary release of his enigmatic alien abduction film “The McPherson Tape” aka “UFO Abduction.” He’ll share secrets about how he made this famous film at 24 years old, which became the first found footage movie ever — ten years before The Blair Witch Project. SEGMENT TWO: Guest Zelia Edgar to discuss UFOs in Wisconsin and the Midwest and more.

Release Date 04-28-20

DEAN ALIOTO: is the creator of both the mysterious and enigmatic UPN TV special Alien Abduction: Incident in Lake County (aka The McPherson Tape), as well as the first found-footage movie, UFO Abduction. An international speaker and commentator on the UFO/alien phenomenon, Dean’s current lecture on the bizarre true story of the making of his films and the wild conspiracies surrounding them, have made him a much sought after speaker and radio/podcast guest and co-host. Dean’s unique take on the phenomenon is currently being developed into a documentary featuring several luminaries in the UFO/alien research field. https://www.deanalioto.com

ZELIA EDGAR: Inspired largely by the rich history of weirdness throughout the Midwest, Zelia Edgar has had a lifelong interest in the paranormal and has been seriously researching it for over a decade. In that time, she has worked as a certified field investigator and state director for Wisconsin MUFON, and currently runs the YouTube channel, JustAnotherTinFoilHat. In addition to hosting a biweekly podcast by that same name on the Paranormal UK Radio Network, Zelia has also appeared as a guest on multiple podcasts and radio shows.

The Socorro UFO Investigation

By Charles Lear

The April 24, 1964 sighting of a landed UFO with two beings standing next to it by Socorro, NM Police Sergeant, Lonnie Zamora has been written about extensively and remains a fascinating mystery to this day.  What’s particularly interesting about this case is how many people investigated it.  Representatives from the Socorro Police, New Mexico State Police the F.B.I. and Army were first on the scene followed by the Lorenzens from the Aerial Phenomena Research Organization, members of the Air Force and J. Allen Hynek as part of Project Blue Book, and Ray Stanford for the National Investigations Committee on Aerial Phenomena.  Besides the testimony of Zamora, there was trace evidence to examine, witnesses to a similar craft to interview, and reputed witnesses to the very craft Zamora reported who were searched for but never found.  Despite the thoroughness of the inquiries and analyses by so many experienced investigators, no one was able to come up with an agreeable Earthly explanation.

According to Zamora’s written report, he was chasing a speeder around 5:45 PM in the southeast section of Socorro when he heard what he described as a roar and saw a flame to the southwest.  Just over a nearby hill was a dynamite shack and Zamora was concerned that it might have blown up, so he broke pursuit and went to investigate.  As he drove he saw a funnel shaped, narrower at the top, blue and “sort of orange” flame slowly descend behind the hill.  He turned onto a dirt road, made it up a hill after three tries, and, after looking around for 15-20 seconds, saw what he thought was a car standing on end in a gully.  As he got closer he noted two figures in what looked like white coveralls standing next to the “car” and as he drove quickly towards them to help, one of the figures turned towards him and seemed startled.  Zamora was focused on the road and radioed that there had been an accident.  When he was close to the site, he went to get out of the car and dropped the mic as he was doing so.  He turned to replace it in its holder and, as soon as he turned away from the car to head down into the gully, he heard a roar, and saw flame coming out of the bottom of a white object shaped like an oval on its side, which was rising up slowly.  He described the roar as not being like a jet, going from lower pitch to higher pitch and increasing “from loud to very loud.”  During this time he noted a red insignia like an arrow under a crescent in the middle of the object.  Fearful of an explosion, Zamora ran behind his car, bumping his leg on it and dropping his sun glasses, and kept on running to duck down just over the edge of the hill.  He glanced back at the object as he did so and saw that it was completely out of the gully and level with his car.  He had intended to keep running down the hill when the roar stopped and was replaced by a whine that went from high to low pitch for about a second. The object then moved away towards the southwest in complete silence, with no flame, in a straight line maintaining a height of 10-15 feet, which Zamora estimated in relation to the dynamite shack, which it had cleared by around 3 feet.  According to Zamora the object moved quickly away and then ascended as it took off “across country.”  Zamora later recalled seeing legs when the object was landed, that held it about three feet off the ground.  Most likely, as he was thinking he was looking at a crashed car at the time, he was unable to put what he was seeing into a proper context.  He radioed headquarters and asked the operator, Nep Lopes to look out his window and tell him if he could see what he was looking at.  Lopes saw nothing and Zamora gave directions to him and Sergeant Sam Chavez of the State Police who monitored the same frequencies as the Socorro Police.

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Show 400 Notes: PJ Hughes

Simulcast on YouTube and KGRA Radio

Tuesday April 14th, 6:00-8:00 PM EDT (-4GMT)

OUR 400TH SHOW, guest PJ Hughes shares his thoughts on what he has found out over the last year in regards to the USS Nimitz ‘Tic Tac’ UFO and much more!

PATRICK “PJ” HUGHES served in the Navy as an Aviation Electronics Technician primarily on the E-2C Hawkeye and C-2A Greyhound airframes. He left the Navy in December of 2010 as a First Class Petty Officer to work on the civilian side of military aviation employed as a Technical Representative for the E-2C and E-2D Hawkeye. He spent his active duty time on both the east and west coasts deploying in 2003, 2004, 2005 and 2010. As an Aviation Electronics Tech he was responsible the Avionics and Weapon Systems onboard the Hawkeye. Those systems included AN/USG-3 Cooperative Engagement Capability, the APS-145 Radar System and various other communications, COMSEC, and navigation equipment. In November 2004, Patrick was a Second Class Petty Officer attached to VAW-117 (Carrier Airborne Early Warning Squadron), “The Wallbangers,” and was with the squadron onboard the Nimitz conducting Air Wing and Battlegroup exercises. While he did not directly witness the Tic Tac anomaly, he adds to the events that November when he describes how two USAF officers along with his Commanding Officer confiscated his classified recordings from an E-2C Hawkeye that witnessed the Tic Tac. PJ is also privileged to share the events described to him by a close friend and another Navy Sailor who was airborne in the Hawkeye and witnessed the Tic Tac form up with the E-2C during flight.

UFOs and the Aerial Phenomena Research Organization

By Charles Lear

For most of the modern UFO era, those interested in the subject have depended on private groups for information.  The most prominent and enduring of these is the Mutual UFO Network.  What many may not know is that MUFON came about as an offshoot of an extraordinary group called the Aerial Phenomena Research Organization that was a mom and pop operation for much of its existence.

APRO was formed in the fall of 1951 through the efforts of Coral Lorenzen with the help and encouragement of her husband, Jim.  Coral’s interest in UFOs preceded the 1947 Kenneth Arnold sighting by more than a decade following her own sighting of an unexplained object.  Coral claimed that in 1934, as a young girl with the maiden name, Lightner, she and her two playmates, Barbara Stringer and Dorothy Wethern, saw what looked like a parachute moving across the sky.  Coral noticed that it didn’t have any strings and this caused her to question whether what she was seeing actually was a parachute.  She told her father what she had seen and he was impressed enough to make inquiries and found that there were no pilots in the area at that time.  Three years later, at the age of 12, Coral was being checked for astigmatism and told her doctor what she had seen.  He recommended that she read the books of Charles Fort, a writer who was a pioneer chronicler of the strange and unusual, and Coral developed an interest that would stick with her for the rest of her life.

By 1947, Coral had married Leslie James Lorenzen and had become an amateur astronomer.  On June 10th, two weeks before Arnold’s sighting, Coral claimed to have seen a light appear next to a mountain in Mexico while looking for meteors from her back porch in Douglas, Arizona.  In her words, “It became a tiny ball of light, then suddenly shot up into the sky, eventually disappearing at nearly zenith.  After Arnold’s sighting of nine objects flying in formation over Mount Ranier, “flying saucer” sightings became big news and Coral began clipping and saving articles.

In 1951, Coral and Jim Lorenzen were living in Sturgeon Bay, Wisconsin after a brief stay in Los Angeles.  While in Los Angeles, they had met contactee, George Adamski, and Coral reported that she was unimpressed by his claims, in part due to his repeated references to the moon as a planet.  In Wisconsin, Coral decided to start a group that would keep track of sightings reports and she wrote to people she knew who might be interested.  Around fifty responded positively and the Aerial Phenomena Research Organization came to be.  Coral had chosen the name, consciously avoiding the term, “flying saucers” which she found distasteful.  The center of operation for APRO was an antique table with clawed feet in the corner of the Lorenzen’s living room and the means of communication among its members was a portable typewriter.

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Show 399 Notes: Raymond Szymanski

Simulcast on YouTube and KGRA Radio

Tuesday April 7, 6:00-8:00 PM EDT (-4GMT)

ABOUT RAYMOND SZYMANSKI: Respected Scientist, Paranormal Researcher, Author, Public Speaker

Ray worked at Wright-Patterson Air Force Base for nearly 40 years and retired in 2011 as a Senior Scientist/Engineer. During his decades of studying the UFO phenomena, he encountered an excess of poorly researched and documented narrative certain to confuse and discourage anyone interested in the topic. Raymond’s mission is to present original, first-person research and documented evidence that launches others into their own quest for the truth.

Raymond’s first book, Fifty Shades of Greys: Evidence of Extraterrestrial Visitation to Wright-Patterson Air Force Base and Beyond has been lauded by several of the world’s best paranormal researchers, Nick Pope, Yvonne Smith, Paul Davids and Preston Dennett, who say: ” A fun and informative book.” “Praise for Fifty Shades.” “Important to UFOlogy.” “Laugh out loud funny.” Their full endorsements are published on the back cover of the book

UFOs and Balloons

by Charles Lear

That UFO sightings, more often than not, have prosaic explanations should surprise no one.  Whether or not an explanation is accepted by witnesses and believers is another question.

An important factor influencing acceptance is the credibility of the investigator.  It should be safe to say at.this point that civilian UFO investigators have more credibility than government employed investigators.  This is because, far too often, commonly mistaken objects have been indiscriminately offered as explanations by public officials in order to put a case to rest.  This is unfortunate because there are occasions where a good solution to a case that could help clear out some of noise in the signal may be dismissed by many due to what has become a reflexive reaction.  From a list that seems logical, here are the most commonly misidentified objects listed from 1-7: military experiments, airplanes, Venus, balloons, weird cloud formations, missile tests and lightning.  Of these, Venus and balloons are the most infamous of abused identification choices but balloons, particularly weather balloons, have been a sore spot for civilian researchers and witnesses since the early days of the modern, post 1947, UFO era.

The July, 1947, headlines announced that the Air Force had recovered a “flying saucer.”  At a press conference set up to address the story, which originated from an Air Force press release, a weather balloon was displayed and the press was told that it was this that was recovered.  The press and public accepted the explanation until researcher, Stanton Friedman, investigated the case beginning in 1978 and found discrepancies and evidence of a cover up.  The case gained so much notoriety, that New Mexico Congressman, Steven Schiff was moved to pressure the General Accounting Office for Air Force records related to the event.  The Air Force took it upon themselves to investigate and, in 1995 released “Roswell Report: Fact vs. Fiction in the New Mexico Desert.”  The authors of this 1000 page report came to the conclusion that what was recovered was not a weather balloon but a string of balloons that were part of a developing top secret project.  The project was named, ”Project Mogul” and its purpose was to detect Soviet nuclear weapons tests.  The report failed to convince most of those who adhered to the extraterrestrial cash theory.

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Show 398 Notes: Travis Taylor & Leslie Kean

Simulcast on YouTube and KGRA Radio

Tuesday March 31, 6:00-8:00 PM EDT (-4GMT)

 

BIO: Travis S. Taylor (“Doc” Taylor to his friends) has earned his soubriquet the hard way: He has a doctorate in Optical Science and Engineering, a doctorate in Aerospace Systems Engineering, a master’s degree in Physics, and a master’s degree in Aerospace Engineering, all from the University of Alabama in Huntsville. Added to this is a master’s degree in Astronomy from the University of Western Sydney (Australia) and a bachelor’s degree in Electrical Engineering from Auburn University (Alabama). Dr. Taylor has worked on various programs for the Department of Defense and NASA for the past two decades. He is currently working on several advanced propulsion concepts, very large space telescopes, space-based beamed energy systems, next generation space launch concepts, He is a licensed Professional Engineer in Alabama.
In his copious spare time, Doc Travis is also a black belt martial artist, a private pilot, a SCUBA diver, and races mountain bikes. He has also competed in triathlons, is a marathon runner, a CrossFitter, and has been the lead singer and rhythm guitarist of several hard rock bands. He has written nineteen science fiction novels, two textbooks (including this one), and over a dozen technical papers. Dr. Taylor has appeared and starred in several television programs including the History Channel’s The Universe and Life After People, National Geographic Channel’s hit shows Rocket City Rednecks and When Aliens Attack, and The Weather Channel’s 3 Scientists Walk Into a Bar. He currently lives with his wife and two children in north Alabama just outside of Huntsville in view of the Saturn V rocket that is erected at the U.S. Space and Rocket Center.

BIO: Leslie Kean is an independent investigative journalist and author of Surviving Death: A Journalist Investigates Evidence for an Afterlife (2017, Crown Publishing Group), a personal story of research into astonishing and thought-provoking information suggestive of survival past death. In 2010, her book UFOs: Generals, Pilots, and Government Officials Go on the Record (Crown Publishing Group, 2010) was a New York Times bestseller. She helped produce a 2011 documentary based on UFOs for the History Channel, made by Breakthru Films, an award-winning independent film company. Kean has been featured on CNN, MSNBC, FOX, The Colbert Report, and NPR and in USA Today, Vanity Fair, US News & World Report, and Columbia Journalism Review, among other media. Beginning in 2012, she contributed a series of articles to the Huffington Post and in 2017 she co-authored a groundbreaking front page story for the New York Times about a previously secret Pentagon program studying UFOs.

Before writing UFOs, Kean co-founded the Coalition for Freedom of Information, an independent alliance advocating for greater government openness on information about UFOs. In this capacity, she was the plaintiff in a successful, five-year Freedom of Information Act federal lawsuit against NASA, which had withheld information concerning a crash of an object in Kecksburg, Pennsylvania in 1965. In 2007, Kean co-organized a landmark Washington DC international press conference on official UFO investigations, which received media coverage around the world. She was also a producer for the 2009 independent documentary I Know What I Saw directed by James Fox. She co-organized a 2013 international conference providing a platform for scientists, government officials and journalists studying UFOs to present data, and she lectured at American University in 2014.

Previously, Kean worked as a freelance writer and radio producer. In the 1990’s she was an on-air host for a daily investigative news program on KPFA radio, a Pacifica station in California. She contributed articles to dozens of publications here and abroad including the Boston Globe, Philadelphia Inquirer, Atlanta Journal-Constitution, Providence Journal, International Herald Tribune, Globe and Mail, Sydney Morning Herald, The Nation, and Journal for Scientific Exploration.. Her stories were syndicated through Knight Ridder/Tribune, Scripps-Howard, New York Times wire service, Pacific News Service, and the National Publishers Association. While spending many years reporting on Burma, Kean coauthored Burma’s Revolution of the Spirit: The Struggle for Democratic Freedom and Dignity (Aperture, 1994). She contributed essays for a number of anthologies published between 1998 and 2009.

The below image is screenshot of a South Portland, Maine third grade, “Remote Learning” class.

Faded Discs, Vintage UFO Encounter Interviews

by Michael Lauck
The UFO mystery is not a 20th century phenomenon, but it did in many ways come into prominence in the 20th century. Serious study of UFOs began around World War II and thrived in the following decades. During this golden age of UFO study radio was the dominant form of electronic media. Although film and television existed, radio was a much more important source of timely news and information. Also during this time UFO investigators would find audio recording devices much more portable, reliable and affordable than film equipment. All of this led to an incredible amount of information from the golden age of UFO study being stored in audio formats.
This should not come as a terrible surprise. Even in today’s so-called digital age that finds even children carrying phones that stream multimedia and record video, audio remains an important part of the UFO community. Nationally syndicated radio shows and Internet podcasts allow researchers, witnesses and even debunkers to spread their stories and theories to interested parties all over the world. Of course, these modern UFO programs are easy to find. Where can you find the recorded lectures, interviews and radio shows of yesterday?

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Show 397 Notes: Kevin Randle

Simulcast on YouTube and KGRA Radio

Tuesday March 24, 6-8PM EDT (-4GMT)

 

Kevin D. Randle is a retired Army lieutenant colonel who served in Vietnam as a helicopter pilot and Aircraft Commander, accumulating more than 1100 hours of combat flight time. In 2003 he deployed to Iraq as an intelligence officer. He served on active duty with the Army and later the Air Force. He was a member of the Iowa National Guard on his deployment into the Middle East. He retired from the military with more than 22 years of service in 2009.

His interest in UFOs began as a teenager when he investigated a sighting while living in Colorado. His big question then was if the object had been sharply defined or had a been a ball of misshapen light. From that point on he has investigated hundreds of sightings around the country including nearly three decades researching the events in Roswell. He now hosts A Different Perspective, the No. 2 rated radio show/pod cast on the X-Zone Broadcast Network. Among his latest books are Roswell in the 21st Century, Encounter in the Desert about the Socorro landing and the recently published The Best of Project Blue Book. His next book, UFOs: The Deep Start and AFOSI will be out in the fall. His blog can be found at www.kevinrandle.blogspot.com

UFOs and the Predicted Death of Frank Edwards

by Charles Lear

Was the death of Frank Edwards, famous newscaster and UFOlogist, predicted by the space people?  This story shows up in a lot of literature from the time and many people took it seriously.   An additional oddity offered up in the account is that the time of Edward’s death was a few hours before midnight, June 23rd, 1967.  This was almost twenty years to the day after June 24, 1947, which was the date of the sighting by Kenneth Arnold that many consider the beginning of the modern UFO mystery.

The story begins in New York City during the 1967 Congress of Scientific UFOlogists.  It was billed as “New York’s first flying saucer convention” and took place over a weekend starting Friday, June 23rd and ending Sunday, June 25th.  The chairman of the event was Jim Moseley and speakers included: Ivan Sanderson, John Keel, Frank Stranges, James Randi, Howard Menger Long John Nebel and Gray Barker.  In the audience was Dr. Edward Condon, presumably researching for the Air Force funded University of Colorado UFO study.  The organizers had arranged to have a court reporter, Bessie J. Gibbs present and a transcription of the entire convention was published and available for the price of five dollars.

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